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free will an illusion ?
Deborah-Leigh:
Just a little tiny reminder. The people at God TV also have no free will! ;)
musicman:
--- Quote from: winner08 on April 22, 2008, 01:58:25 PM --- Yes musicman: It seems like, let me rephrase that, ever since the political leaders took God out of the schools it all went down hill. I am a firm believer of this. Has anything gotten better since God was taking out of the public school system?? NO! Now the leaders want to take God out of our pledge of legions. Our court rooms. wherever they see God,they want Him out. This is why this once Greatly Bless by God's nation is all but ready for the BIG FALL. It won't be long.
Thanks Darren
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God was never in the schools. However, god is alive and well there. I have heard plenty of teachers spouting off about their trinity god in front of students and even witnessed a collegue of mine tell a student "hell is hotter". The kid was complaining that it was hot outside. The problem with the schools is funding cuts and teachers and schools aren't aloud to discipline. But God was never there. I don't care about the pledge because I no longer say it.
chuckt:
intereting thanks!, i find many athiest holding up the idea of ""freewill""
strange.
blessings
chuckt
phazel:
--- Quote from: winner08 on April 22, 2008, 01:58:25 PM --- Yes musicman: It seems like, let me rephrase that, ever since the political leaders took God out of the schools it all went down hill. I am a firm believer of this. Has anything gotten better since God was taking out of the public school system?? NO! Now the leaders want to take God out of our pledge of legions. Our court rooms. wherever they see God,they want Him out. This is why this once Greatly Bless by God's nation is all but ready for the BIG FALL. It won't be long.
Thanks Darren
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Hi Darren, this is not meant to critisize your beliefs or opinions, only to point out a few things. The government is not in control of peoples hearts.
As far as the blessings on this great nation, I suppose it all depends on the perspective of who you are. I'm sure back in the 60's the blacks who had to ride in the back of the bus were sure glad God was in schools showing the great wonderful God of the US of A.
What we really have is a babylonians perspective biasing our thoughts about where God is and who is worshipping him or serving him. Accoring to babylon, I am living in sin and aiding and abeding the dwevil taking souls to hell because I want to go see the Golden Compass movie. According to babylon, I cannot experience God completely unless I enter into their Pagan Temple and pay them money. God must be force fed to the nation in order for God to be active in society.
I play violent video games and watch movies like Saw. They are sure that I am headed to hell and that I have removed God from my life and am displeasing him at every turn. Screw their God.
Now has God really been removed from the schools? Are there no kids that pray in schools? Of course there are, the issue is that christians do not see their pagan rituals being practiced in public, so the idol of their heart was smashed in the public school.
The christians are fighting for their Pagan Idol, thats all.
Please do not take my post personal.
Paul
musicman:
Paul!!
Get a hold of yourself. It's screw their god, not their God.
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