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carol v:
I mean this as a caution and not to in any way criticize this forum. But I will say that I liked the software for the forum a few years ago that didn't give this rating to its members.

About a year and a half ago in one of my other incarnations of membership on this site (same name, just let my membership slide when I got busy and didn't log in so was cancelled, twice so far)...well, I got sidetracked...I discovered that two "hero members" lived only 100 miles away from me and since I'm the only 'one' I know in my small town, I contacted them and we arranged a meeting.

First the positive...one of the hero members was exactly like she represented and represents herself here -- warm, loving, and a sincere seeker of God's truth.

I was suspicious from the first of the other hero member though because when I clicked on her name after discovering she lived so close, I also discovered that she had amassed over 2000 posts in barely 3 months time while talking about her baby, husband and busy life. Well, I've had babies and I never had time to post on the internet so I questioned that.

I drove up one Sunday and had lunch with both these members, their husbands and kids. As I said, one is a loving wonderful person who was/is exactly as she represents herself. The other, well, worse than I thought and I'm pretty streetwise about people.

I found out that she had indeed amassed these posts while neglecting her child. She had actually left her child alone for hours at a time when her husband was at work to go write these posts on a neighbor's computer. When I met her she was filthy, the child was filthy and then I found out that not only did she post as a hero member on this site but she posted on a Wiccan website as well. She was Wiccan.

From reading her posts though you would not have guessed this about her. One time she told the forum she was sick and we ended up with about 3 pages of sympathy posts for her. Sincere members being deceived by a hero member.

She no longer is a member of this forum so no need to seek it out. And the great hero member who is still a member of this forum has given up trying to help this woman and doesn't associate with her anymore. She made the right choice.

I am listed as a newbie and can't even tell you how many posts I have right now. But I've actually been a member for almost 4 years and first started studying Ray's site and God's truth then. I mention this because I have noticed a tendency for "newbies" to be condescended to and I find it kind of annoying. I quit going to Weight Watchers meetings years ago because they insisted on talking to the members as if they were in kindergarten. Hmmmm....that was probably a mistake ::)

Just be aware folks that "newbies" aren't necessarily new to God's truth and "hero members" aren't necessarily the bearers of all truth and wisdom. This is the internet guys. If I wanted to be a hero member I could simply start posting a small comment in every single thread, welcome everybody, tell a few jokes and VOILA -- a bearer of all wisdom.

Carol

Kent:

--- Quote --- I mention this because I have noticed a tendency for "newbies" to be condescended to
--- End quote ---


I dont see that. Point out 1 example. If you can, that is.

It doesnt matter what title the member has. The only thing that matters is the mods and admins.

People here are kind and considerate. Even when we sometimes disagree.

mharrell08:
Hello,

I am pretty much a newbie to the forum as I only recently went over the 50 post mark for Jr. Member. The title of this post caught my eye and for the wrong reasons. The "vs." seems to pit one side against the other. Also, I have to agree with Kent as I do not see or has it happened to me a long standing member having a condescending attitude. I started a post called "A Message to the Stubborn" about people arguing in vanity instead of having an attitude of humility but that was not directed to one particular group.

The only thing I have seen even remotely close to what your post is referring to is when a member (usually lower or shorter standing) asked a question that has an answer in Ray's studies and notes. And then usually a mod or longer standing member will direct them to the paper or email. Only when that same member is going on and on about "their point" does the mod or hero member basically say "Hey, either study yourself or email Ray but quit trying to argue a non-scriptural point." I don't see a condescending attitude in those instances. But then again, like Kent said, please point out 1 example. No one is perfect we can all agree on but I have yet to see it.


Marques

carol v:
Kent, you're right. The people here are kind and considerate. I was annoyed yesterday at a public attack in the forum on someone I am very fond of and the thread has been removed. There is nothing to point to from yesterday and digging up old threads would be beating a dead horse.

I still believe that the rating of members is very unfortunate and I have seen this in practice in my 3 and 1/2 years here but I don't feel any need to go on with this thread. The software of the old forum didn't require stars and ratings. I did not mean to start a feud and was wrong to put vs. in the subject as if I was pitting them against each other. I was simply comparing.

Carol

Dennis Vogel:
We have not liked the rating system either but could not find a way to defeat it.

Craig may have found a way. If it goes away you'll know he succeeded.

Dennis

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