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hillsbororiver:
It is sometimes interesting to run across our Lord's sense of humor and irony, we see it in some of the sarcasm He directs toward the religious leaders of His day and also from time to time even with His own disciples.

I came across this a little while ago and although I was familiar with these verses I had never put them together before.

Check it out;

Mar 3:17  And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:

OK, a cool name for sure but why "sons of thunder?"

Luk 9:53  And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
 
Luk 9:54  And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire4442 to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elijah did?
 
Luk 9:55  But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
 
Luk 9:56  For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

We see in Luke 9:54 the KJV has G4442 translated as fire, as we can see from Strong's (and some other Bible translations) that lightning fits in very nicely here.


 G4442
πῦρ
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A primary word; “fire” (literally or figuratively, specifically lightning): - fiery, fire.

So here we have Jesus naming the brothers, the sons of thunder which I am sure stayed with them all their lives, not a small reminder of their willingness even enthusiasm (as they too were not yet converted) to bring swift and sure destruction rather than mercy for those who had yet to embrace Who it was in their midst.

To me it is another glimpse into the mind and the ironic humor of our Lord who also reveals our Father.

Actually I am not really sure I even want to ponder what name He might have in store for me!

His Peace to you,

Joe

mharrell08:
That's pretty good Joe. One thing I wonder about with the Lord's irony is the fact that Jesus was a carpenter. Then Paul talks about in Romans 3 about Jesus "laying the foundation". And of course we know through Jesus "by whom are all things" or basically created all. I think a carpenter was a perfect "parable" for our Lord and Savior.


P.S.  For any who may not know, I mean parable as similar or like his true self not to say he wasn't literally a carpenter.


Marques

Little Joe:

--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on April 21, 2008, 06:54:28 PM ---Actually I am not really sure I even want to ponder what name He might have in store for me!

--- End quote ---


Good post Joe!  I shudder the thought myself, too!  :o

Kat:

Hi Joe,

I'm glad you showed that, because I like to get a glimpse of Jesus' personality.  I sometimes try to think what it must have been like to know Him during His life on earth.  Like Him giving James and John that nick name, it shows His wit.

Can you imagine how much the Disciples learned from being around Him everyday.  I guess every single thing He said and did had some lesson you could learn from it. 

John 21:25  And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Martinez:
 That's really awesome Joe, thankyou so much for sharing that with us!

It really does show just how witty Christ is, and the really cool thing is, we will be like Him!

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