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mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Akira329 on April 29, 2008, 10:19:37 PM ---Can Someone help my understanding of this scripture??
Who is this servant?

Luke 12:47And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more.

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This parable as all of Christ's parables are about "Many are called, few are chosen." (Matt. 22:14) Spiritual Truths 2&3 cover this in much greater detail: http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm

The servant who knew his master's will represent "the many called". Their chastisement will be more severe "because that unto them were committed the oracles of God" (Rom. 3:2). The servant who did not know represent "the few chosen" especially the Gentile as it was Israel who were given the oracles of God not Gentiles.

I believe this is so from the scriptures and from Ray's teachings. If anyone can provide further help, please do.


Marques

ericsteven:
Here is what I see…

Those who are beaten with many stripes are the 'many called.'  They know God’s will but do not do it.  For example, most of Churchianity knows that Jesus said:

Matt 5:44     Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
                  you, and persecute you.

Yet, these same people have no qualms about loving their enemies by picking up a gun and blowing them away to the glory of God.  They would just as soon see their enemies punished and put through exactly what their enemies put them through rather than doing good to them and forgiving them.  These are the people that will be beaten with many stripes.  They know what the Scriptures say; they’re just unwilling to believe them and live them.  These are the people, the servants of God, that Jesus speaks about in verses 45-56:

Luke 12:45-46     But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and
                        maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not
                        for [him], and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the
                        unbelievers.

Those who are beaten with few stripes are those who have never heard the truth.  That was what the whole paper Ray sent to D. James Kennedy was about: “What About Those Who Have Never Heard?”  http://bible-truths.com/kendy2.htm  Kennedy believed (at least at that time) that those who have never heard the truth will end up in hell for all eternity because their ‘ignorance defense’ will not be enough to save them.  The truth - which Kennedy did not see - is that yes, they will be chastised because they did sin…

Romans 3:23       For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

…but because there was no opportunity given to them to know that their sin was against God and His law, God will not chastise them as severely as He will those who knew His law and went ahead and broke it anyway.

In contrast, the 'few chosen' are spoken of a few verses earlier in verses 42 - 44.

Luke 12:43-44     And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom [his] lord shall make ruler over his household, to
                        give [them their] portion of meat in due season?  Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find
                        so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

They have already been through the fiery chastening of God and have been counted worthy to stand alongside their elder brother and high priest Jesus to rule over as well as administer the stripes to the ‘many’ until those same 'many' come to see the truth.  They have been given much and used it wisely. 

These verses in Luke perhaps can parallel somewhat nicely with the parable of the talents (Matt 25).  Though all three servants were given different amounts of talents, two used them wisely and gained much for the Lord, while the third believed his lord to be a hard man, reaping where he hadn't sown, so he hid his talent.  And what happened?  The first two were rewarded when the lord returned, while the third was judged by the very words that came out of his mouth, and he was "apportion[ed]...his portion with the unbelievers."

Does that help?  Any other thoughts?

Eric

mharrell08:
You nailed it right on the head, Eric!


"For many are called, but few are chosen"



Marques

Roy Monis:
Hi! Eric

Thanks Eric, I too, like Akira 329, was confused by this saying forgetting that Peter had asked the Lord to explain this "parable", a very important omission. Brother you have helped two fellow brethren with a single sling shot, like David did to Goliath.

God bless you.

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy

Pandora:
~ In Gen.3:20 I also see the Spiritual similarity of
Eve, The Woman Deceived being called "The Mother 0f all Living".


As Earthly Jerusalem being called "Lady 0f Kingdoms"
0r "Misstress 0f Kingdoms" - Is.47:5 (Dead Sea Scrolls Bible)

And New Jerusalem in Heaven being called "The Mother 0f Us All."
Gal.4:26

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