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Being a Christian is bad?
David:
--- Quote from: Roy Coates on May 08, 2008, 09:45:21 AM --- these days even nondenominational is a denomination.
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Very true. In my experience none denominational Churches use their none denominational status as an excuse to include a bit of everything, they have baptisms, pentacostal style babling and jesticulating etc, the sacraments and so on.
indianabob:
Folks,
After the Nashville conference last year, I returned home to my little group of Church of God, Abrahamic fellowship and tried to share what I had learned from the conference and from many attending such as Gena and Rene.
I have said that it was difficult for me to just abandon them since they really needed some enlightenment.
After an additional year of leading Bible studies and trying to get them to examine themselves to see if they were pleasing God I have finally seen the futility of the exercise and have politely informed them that I would no longer fellowship with them.
No hard feelings on either side, but I'm sure that they are mystified and wondering why I have lost my senses.
Try as we may, we cannot convict or even help those who are not called. I knew that, in my mind and in my heart and yet these folks had been like blood relatives in their treatment of me and it is very hard to just give up and let go. I have and a great burden, that I placed upon myself, has been lifted. I thank God for that and I thank the forum members for their good advice and great patience with my struggle.
I think that I have learned a little in the process and that the effort was not wasted if I have gained better understanding.
Warm regards to one and all, IndianaBob
Roy Coates:
Well said IndianaBob. I am in about the same spot. I started learning with Ray at the same time I enrolled in Bible college and joined a small local church. The truths I share, do for the most part get heard. However I think it(truth) falls on deaf ears.
I got fed at the local church for a while. It may have been milk, but that is what I needed at the time. I pray that it was spoiled milk. Now as I grow from the in depth studying I have been doing. I feed my family and any who will listen with the Spiritual Understanding that the Holy Spirit imparts to me.
I now serve those Christians at the local church, who took in this lost and starving soul. I plow the snow and mow the lawn, volunteer in the nursery, junior church, fund raisers and usher. They loved me and helped me the best way they knew how. It won't be too long until I am needed else where.
I guess what I am trying to say is; God used those Christians to help this son of God grow up. They can't help it that they are blind. I don't hold that against them. It is all a part of the Divine Plan of God the Father
indianabob:
--- Quote from: Roy Coates on May 08, 2008, 10:24:23 PM ---Well said IndianaBob. I am in about the same spot. I started learning with Ray at the same time I enrolled in Bible college and joined a small local church. The truths I share, do for the most part get heard. However I think it(truth) falls on deaf ears.
I got fed at the local church for a while. It may have been milk, but that is what I needed at the time. I pray that it was spoiled milk. Now as I grow from the in depth studying I have been doing. I feed my family and any who will listen with the Spiritual Understanding that the Holy Spirit imparts to me.
I now serve those Christians at the local church, who took in this lost and starving soul. I plow the snow and mow the lawn, volunteer in the nursery, junior church, fund raisers and usher. They loved me and helped me the best way they knew how. It won't be too long until I am needed else where.
Good to hear from you Roy,
As you may recall, I'm just down the road a ways near South Bend, IN. I have a cousin living in Kalamazoo and another in Brighton and we visit about once every three years. With the price of fuel today it isn't any easier.
Thank you for your kind comments, it is a struggle to know what to do, but that is the situation we are in by God's choice. It is a learning exercise and we each are being instructed individually by the son of the creator; what an honor that is.
I hope to hear more from you now that I recall that you are a next door neighbor.
Keep up the good work and continue to trust in Messiah for spiritual strength.
Warm regards, Bob
I guess what I am trying to say is; God used those Christians to help this son of God grow up. They can't help it that they are blind. I don't hold that against them. It is all a part of the Divine Plan of God the Father
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kweli:
Thanks greatly for the effort Kat. It really helped.
I dont mean to drag this on, but based on the topic itself, is being a Christian bad? I mean if Peter and Paul recognized it as a way of identifying Christ's followers then maybe we should think more about it. I understand why we wouldnt want to be 'associated' with modern day christians, but the word and it's meaning (which fits more with us here) were not found in some dictionary or heretic's documentation, but in the Scriptures.
I'm not so sure about neglecting the use of the word if it is Scriptural. I understand that Jesus was physically circumcised so that I dont have to be under that law to stand approved but, Scriptural Christians are us, those who carry their cross and follow Jesus. It is great to have a word that recognizes this tough task of following Jesus, isnt it?
I really need to get to the meat of this one...
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