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Knowing the truth the hell message really bugs me
winner08:
I like you Nikoa was always fearful that my family would go to hell and burn forever,because they were not born again Christians. I was devastated that my grandmother who loved me dearly and had not had a bad word for anyone was frying in hell for the last 15yrs because she was not born again christian. I wasn't so much in fear for my own self just the ones I love. I was very happy when I read Ray's papers on the lake of fire. It all made since to me. That what these modern false prophets do they put the fear of burning in hell forever and ever unless you change your ways and choose God's way.
(free will) B.S. If God is all mighty and the most powerfull being in the universe then why is tens of billions of people who ever lived are going to hell and burn. This is what the preachers of today would have you believe. I believe that God sent His son Jesus to save ALL of mankind and if you believe scripture God's will will be done and His desire to save ALL of man.
That's what I believe.
Darren
Nikoa:
Part of me wants to engage in discussion with people who believe in a fiery hell just so that I can learn and dig deeper. It's funny, the few times I have spoke up about this on a forum I have received messages back with this " Oh you poor ignorant and deceived soul" attitude. I can be humble but am not a big fan of being talked down to and that is what I get from "Christians". Seems like "Christians" are the most closed minded people and not even willing to discuss anything that goes against their world view. I see this in the majority of emails to Ray..No scripture just...this is the way it is and I will pray that God reveals His truth to you attitude.
winner08:
Your right Noika, Christians who are doctrinated in the man made doctrines are very closed minded. You right just read some of the Emails Ray gets from so called Christians. They hate him and his teachings. They all fear the truth. I join Bible truths about a month or so and I've notice just how much hate these so called loving Christians have. Also , when I'm flipping through the channels on tv and I come across a Joyce Myers, haggee or a pat Robinson and the rest of these false teachers I really listen to them at least for a few mins. just to see how full of it they really are. At the end of any of these program ms they are selling something. Books, tapes or trips and they all need money. If you give your last penny then God will bless you. But you have to give money. What does God need what our money. Sorry I went on a small rant and have gotten off the subject. (Christians are the biggest hypocrate ever).
Thanks and peace
Darren
Samson:
--- Quote from: Nikoa on May 08, 2008, 07:02:00 PM ---Honestly I was almost at the point of standing on the street corner. I figured if hell is true then every waking second needs to be dedicated to warning other people that are going there. One of Ray Comfort's messages even made me believe that if I wasn't doing that then I too would be there.
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Hello Nikoa,
The above is precisely the ultimate conclusion one could reach in regards to the belief in everlasting Hell-fire for the wicked and unbeliever, at least someone who trly cares for other people.
I can remember discussing this with a "Brother" that is a member of my former Religious Affiliation and he said basically the same thing you stated above, Nikoa, " If Hell-fire is in store for the unbeliever and the wicked, we should use all our time and resources to warn the people, so they don't end up their." The irony of it all, we taught that the wicked and unbelievers would be annihiliated instead at the battle of Armageddon." I started to reason within myself that, although Annihiliation(extinction) was preferable to Eternal Hell-fire, it still lacked justice, mercy and Love.
The punishment still well exceeded the crime in either case(Hell-fire or Annihiliation). I reasoned and discovered that our Loving God would never punish his children to that extreme, based on what they did or didn't do or what they did wrong or didn't do right. I've known for years that Sin(Hamartia-GK) literally meant missing the mark and we all miss the mark. If we break one of his commandments, we are guilty of all of them. Now, I'm glad and thankfull to God for opening my eyes in believing that Jesus really is the Savior of the World(1John. 4:14).
Isn't it wonderfull ! That by God's Grace, our eyes are now opened and we don't believe the lie anymore.
Rays' Audio Bible Study on WORSHIP, parts 1 & 2 is very helpfull in this regard, was listening to it the last few days.
Your Brother, Samson :)
chuckt:
Greetings and GRACE to you.
This story is typical, and confermation abounding that it was God leading/dragging you to HIM and the truth!!
for 40 yrs i never even heard of UR, and when i cried out to God same thing, and a light went on and there is confermation after confermation !! PRAISE HIM.
also 4 yrs ago i was on fire to get this new meesage out, and have come to realize, it must be the LORD whom opens doors, you cant force it on anyone.
your job isnt to make one drink, its to make them thirsty, plant seeds so to speak.
inlove
euty
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