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Mother's Day and Other Holidays
UncleBeau:
I've talked with Nola time and time again discussing "special days". Mother's Day came up because, well, it was Sunday. We've been studying the origins of certain days such as Christmas, Easter, etc... Those are easy to reference back to pagan holidays if you care to look. What about mother's day? Is it harmless to observe this day and take your mother out for dinner or treat her extra-special?
Galatians 4:9-11
9.) But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10.) Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11.) I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
If we observe these days, whatever they may be, after being given knowledge of the truth, we desire again to be in bondage!!
So, why would it be, or how rather, could it be harmful to celebrate Mother's Day? Think about it for a moment. Who CAN celebrate this day?...more importantly, who CAN'T? What about barren women? Should they feel happy for the women who can have children? What about women who lost their children in a miscarriage? What about Mothers whose children have died, period? What about orphans who have no mothers or whose mothers have died also? Are you understanding me? those people do not "qualify" under those circumstances to "celebrate", and instead will probably be reminded of their loss and will mourn even more on that day. This "day" is not of God, it's of man and his "exclusive" canal mind.
On a more physical note, have you seen how crowded places are on Mother's day? Nola and I wanted to just go to lunch somewhere and couldn't find any place that wasn't packed with people. If you don't do something nice for your mother when society says to, you're made to feel bad, your mother is made to feel bad, and people judge you left and right. I didn't even call my mother. Why? because I don't care? nope. I wanted to expose this heresy for the crap that it is. I call my mother almost every other day. I go places with both my parents, Nola and the baby included; because I love my family and show them accordingly. but guess what? pagans forget all of that evidence on mother's day. They focus on that day and that day alone, which is a running guilt trip until next year. Needless to say my mother was upset, but to me, it's the same upset that people get when you tell them there's no hell. I don't care. I turned it around and spurned her for making me guilty of not following the crowd. I'm sure to some of you, this is some kind of an act of cruelty or a hateful gesture, but to rid ourselves of worldly things, we have to be thrown into the fire; and the more we become what God makes us into, the more the world hates what we've become, even our own parents. I don't have to give you exact numbers to tell you there are probably millions of people crying on Mother's day out of sadness.
I hope you can see where I'm coming from, and I hope some people are freed from what the world wants from us where holidays are concerned.
-Beau
P.S. Don't even make me get started on birthdays.
Matt:
I understand what you are saying Uncle Beau ;).
If you show true love in all you do, then your loved ones will never NEED special days to feel appreciated.
They will see Jesus through you.
Knowing this, I still feel it is important for me to recognize my wife/kids/parents/etc...not because the world says so, but because they do not yet have understanding.
This is all part of the huge frustration and responsibility of knowing the truth, at least this is the way I see it.
:)
Matt
mharrell08:
Here's an email from Ray that sheds light on this subject:
I recently found out that Christmas along with other "traditions common to man" have nothing to do with Jesus when they originated. However, I am finding limited information on birthdays and cakes. Do you have information on this topic? I am trying to figure out if God is pleased with me having cake and using candles. (I already know the wishing part is wrong).
Thanks!
Dear Reader:
I think that there are more important things to be concerned about than candles on a birthday cake "Unto the pure all things are pure."
Not everything that may have originated with the pagans, is necessarily evil. What will over-concerned Christians on such matters ever do if they find out that it was the pagans who first wore shoes?
God be with you,
Ray
Marques
KristaD:
Well that's certainly one way to look at it, Beau, and if you feel that convicted about it you're definitely making the right choice to avoid such things. God has not shown me, personally, anything wrong with mother's day, father's day, fourth of july, or birthdays but I can see what you are saying, as it's how I see the other holidays. If God showed me pagan roots to them I would seriously have to find out if He wanted me to cut those out too. For me, though, it's just a personal celebration of that person or event and I really couldn't care less what it means to the world. I don't think we should always have to feel bad b/c other's don't have something we have been blessed with either and I wouldn't think of that as a reason not to celebrate my mother or children. I mean, I can't imagine not being happy and celebrating the coming birth of my next baby just b/c other women can't have babies. If God sees fit to make me a mother then I take that and embrace it and do my best at it while rejoicing in it, not keeping quiet for the women He has made barren. I think we should consider their feelings and yes they will think about it on that day and it is sad that we have to set aside just one day for thanking our mothers but if I give my mom a hug or card or a gift I can't see it hurting someone else :-\.
kweli:
What will over-concerned Christians on such matters ever do if they find out that it was the pagans who first wore shoes?
Matthew 11:29-30
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
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