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Are you the elect?
joyful1:
What about "make sure of your election?"
2 Peter 1:9-10
9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
I've always assumed that we can only HOPE for election.....? Does the above verse mean that we strive BECAUSE we hope? Or does it mean that we have assurance, because; whatever work He has begun in us He WILL finish?
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
We know for sure that His Spirit bares witness with our spirit that we ARE the children of God....
Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
but what does that REALLY mean? Will our spirit and His Spirit stand and be the witnesses necessary to establish that we are His on judgement day, or does it mean that as we become ONE with Christ, and hence ONE with the Father, we are being shown by the Father and Christ that we ARE sons of God? A kind of "ongoing" process? I've often thought about the whole "is, was, and will be" application here. Any thoughts?
Joyce :)
KristaD:
Forgive me, I haven't read all of the post on this thread. My feeling is that God is working in me, showing me things and purging me of sin. I have NO IDEA if this means that I am one of the elect and even thinking that I may be seems totally out there to me really. I feel blessed that He is working on me but I certainly don't feel that I am in any way deserving of, or that I could even accept a position of reigning with Christ. I feel that He called me out and is daily showing me truths, but I sure don't feel elect just blessed and that's plenty good enough for me ;).
winner08:
Thanks Roy from the UK: I appreciate all the kindness that you have shown me. Your words are a comfort.
Thanks Darren
Stevernator:
Hi Krista,
Well Peter talks about steps to make our calling and election sure. So I wonder if we can conclude that if we dilligently do these things then one is elect??
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: David on May 16, 2008, 03:49:26 AM ---To answer the question, thats for God to decide.
I live by faith and live in hope.
I think that if one thinks they are, then the chances are they are not.
You should listen to Ray's talk on "How hard is it to get saved". I think its also on video google to watch. Being in the 1st ressurection, meeting the criteria required is probably the hardest thing any human can achieve.
I think its fair to say that because Ray was confined to time when he did this talk, he could have gone on a lot longer about the requirements for Gods elect. Its huge.
--- End quote ---
Hi! David
Well said brother. While in Babylon I met quite a few who had reservations right at the foot of Christ's throne.
Sadly I couldn't see what they were sitting on, there was nothing there only an illusion. There is a time for everything under the sun and it appears as though it is their time to dream pleasant dreams.
God bless
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
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