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Near Death Experiences
GinaMilan:
--- Quote from: Dawidos on June 20, 2010, 04:33:29 PM ---Before my conversion I got interested in NDE with great passion :) We should remember we believe all comes from God and because some people experience "near-death" and some not, it should be some kind clue for us. Most of NDE are very positive and very similiar. I have even read a scientific research on this subject entitled "NDEs and Universal Salvation" by Dr. Ken Vincent, which showed that christian universalists might be right :) ;) Anyway, I was wondering - if God operates beyond the physical time and space, is it possible that He gives near-death experiencers a glimpse in the future? His future kingdom after resurrection, judgementand salvation - in short words the end of his mighty plan. What do you think??
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Hi David,
Interesting topic.
I used to be taken in by NDE's before I learned Ecc 9:5. It's not a glimpse into the future; I truly believe that.
A friend who is an atheist recently told me how they had a "near" death experience. "Didn't see a thing! Nada, zilch, zippo! Nothing!" (haha)
Then, there are those who claim they see this and that and the other thing in the "near" death experience.
This is what I think: Others going around telling people they've had a "near" death experience and then going on to describe what happens "after" death is akin to saying, "I went near the river, and this qualifies me to tell you what is in the river..."
If they're seeing things, they're not dead... yet! Ecc. 9:5
Dave in Tenn:
Bill Weisse had a near death experience. Or maybe he didn't. Maybe he had a vision of something. Or maybe he didn't. Maybe he fabricated the whole story to 'keep people from choosing Hell' or maybe he didn't. Maybe he fabricated the whole story to make some money. Or maybe he didn't. How am I supposed to know? I'm supposed to know by Scripture, Spiritually discerned.
People who report near death experiences do so for their own motives and with their own prejudices. People who COMPILE reports of near death experiences ABSOLUTELY do so for their own motives and probably with their own prejudices. How is that of any real value to me, especially since it cannot be scientifically AND scripturally confirmed as truth?
I'd be happy to 'preach' to someone who believes he/she has had a near death experience, just as Paul did to the Athenians worshipping their unknown God. But I won't sit still for a sermon from him/her. I do believe God can cause the rocks and stones to preach the gospel. I do NOT believe I'll be heading down to the quarry anytime soon to listen. That's about what I think of reported near death experiences.
That's just me, though.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: GinaMilan on June 20, 2010, 05:03:50 PM ---This is what I think: Others going around telling people they've had a "near" death experience and then going on to describe what happens "after" death is akin to saying, "I went near the river, and this qualifies me to tell you what is in the river..."
If they're seeing things, they're not dead... yet! Ecc. 9:5
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--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on June 20, 2010, 05:25:06 PM ---Bill Weisse had a near death experience. Or maybe he didn't. Maybe he had a vision of something. Or maybe he didn't. Maybe he fabricated the whole story to 'keep people from choosing Hell' or maybe he didn't. Maybe he fabricated the whole story to make some money. Or maybe he didn't. How am I supposed to know? I'm supposed to know by Scripture, Spiritually discerned.
People who report near death experiences do so for their own motives and with their own prejudices. People who COMPILE reports of near death experiences ABSOLUTELY do so for their own motives and probably with their own prejudices. How is that of any real value to me, especially since it cannot be scientifically AND scripturally confirmed as truth?
I'd be happy to 'preach' to someone who believes he/she has had a near death experience, just as Paul did to the Athenians worshipping their unknown God. But I won't sit still for a sermon from him/her. I do believe God can cause the rocks and stones to preach the gospel. I do NOT believe I'll be heading down to the quarry anytime soon to listen. That's about what I think of reported near death experiences.
That's just me, though.
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Amen...well said Dave & Gina.
soberxp:
I have experience,and I have seen some dark stuff,ghost like a shadow and burning but no light,the ghost don't receive light,unlike the light,the ghost didn't sunshine,some kind of "dark-shine" ,maybe the ghost come from hell,maybe I will go to hell.
if you don't believe in me,just ignore.
musicman:
--- Quote from: soberxp on June 20, 2010, 07:36:42 PM ---I have experience,and I have seen some dark stuff,ghost like a shadow and burning but no light,the ghost don't receive light,unlike the light,the ghost didn't sunshine,some kind of "dark-shine" ,maybe the ghost come from hell,maybe I will go to hell.
if you don't believe in me,just ignore.
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