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lorrie

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Prepare for rough times?
« on: May 30, 2008, 07:03:30 PM »

Hi everyone!My mother has been saying to me in the last few days that she thinks she should be preparing for food prices to go up-by stocking food and  other necessitys she also mentioned getting a generator.I personally do not feel that i need to concern myself --however i should not dismiss her feelings/thoughts on this subject perhapes it is our Father putting this thought in her head.
Are any of you preparing for a possibility of rioting and mauraders?

I want to say up front though i am not a passivist and i would not tolerate anyone stealing nor threatening me or mine, i just dont personally feel i should get any supplies stored up.
I want to know what to say to her, and i figured you 'guys' cuold help me out.
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indianabob

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 07:27:14 PM »



Hello Rough Times jaguar,

Interesting second question and circumstance.  Let me try to illustrate a scenario.

If everyone around you is really hungry and thirsty and cold and you are not, they will notice and be very concerned about your source of food or water or clothing or heat.  You won't have to worry too long about roving marauders, because your hungry neighbors will be at your front door seeking answers.  In that case, the only protection you will have will be to share ALL that you have willingly and to accept the consequences.  In other words, we all live or we all die together.  If you exercise any force to defend your property and food from marauders, they will regroup in a day or two and come back in force and take everything including your very lives, because they will feel justified in doing so.

Regarding the first question, it is good to plan for power outages and severe weather and lack of food delivery to your area for several days and even a generator is good if you have enough fuel to operate it for an extended period.  You Mom is probably experienced in unexpected situations and wise to think of these things ahead of time especially since she may be older and not able to cope with severe cold in the house or loss of refrigeration in the case of storage of medicines, frozen foods etc. and she may believe that she has an obligation to help her neighbors or others who would depend upon her.

Just the view of an older generation.

Bob


Hi everyone!My mother has been saying to me in the last few days that she thinks she should be preparing for food prices to go up-by stocking food and  other necessitys she also mentioned getting a generator.I personally do not feel that i need to concern myself --however i should not dismiss her feelings/thoughts on this subject perhapes it is our Father putting this thought in her head.
Are any of you preparing for a possibility of rioting and mauraders?

I want to say up front though i am not a passivist and i would not tolerate anyone stealing nor threatening me or mine, i just dont personally feel i should get any supplies stored up.
I want to know what to say to her, and i figured you 'guys' cuold help me out.
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Jackie Lee

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 08:39:21 PM »

My Mother is near 80 and she believes food will be rationed in the near future, she was around when food was rationed in world war two.
I really don't worry much about this because I don't believe I could stop it by stocking up.
However I do try and keep noodles and a few cans of extra food.
Does anyone think it will come to robbing and stealing for our supplies?
I keep remembering the Y2K and how everyone was panicky which came to nothing.
Seems people are fearing really bad times ahead.
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Stevernator

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 02:39:07 AM »

I think that there are rough times coming. It seems pretty clear we (in the USA at least) are in or very close to recession and could be getting worse. It is somewhat upsetting to me how economic policies affect the poor around the world who can no longer afford food. I think it is wise to do your own research (i.e. more than tv news) and if you feel necessary to prepare for you, your loved ones/whoever else you can. But I think it is important to remember to place our trust in God and not to let the physical distract from the spiritual. Here we believe that God is in control of everything.

No, I have not done anything to prepare but I am thinking about maybe planting some vegetables or something. But I also have the thought maybe it wouldn't be so bad if I saw some hardship because life has been easy for me. I also keep in mind what Jesus has to say about worrying what you will eat or wear.

Whatever the case, I think the message remains the same: Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself.
Thanks for listening to what I have to say,
Steve

For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Ecc 1:18
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lorrie

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 04:42:52 PM »

Thanks for the response -I have decided that given my moms age i shall tell her to only  keep a little extra around.I have Faith in our lord to protect  me in his own mysterious way.
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KristaD

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 08:45:22 PM »

I can't offer any better answer that what Jesus gives us in Matthew 6

25Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

 26Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

 27Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

 28And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

 29And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

 30Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

 31Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

 32(For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

 33But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

 34Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
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chuckt

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2008, 09:01:34 PM »

the food i have now is sufficient, and im low, God willing this week i will be stocking up, but  only my normal needs.

and as of late, i have been shown i dont need as much as i thought.

God is good, what we see is not what is. we could be starving born into a station of want and need, oh wait we are in one form or another, may the starving children of the ""physical"" world, have more than us in the next!
May the God of reconciliation of ALL things be glorified , in this age and the ages to come!


ok, peace
chuckt


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Roy Monis

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2008, 09:04:17 AM »

Hi! Brother Jaguar

Yes your mom is right, it is good to stock up our barns but we should be careful which barn we store in, Jesus said: "And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully: and he reasoned within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have not where to bestow my fruits? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my grain and my goods. And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, be merry. But God said unto him, Thou foolish one, this night is thy soul required of thee; and the things which thou hast prepared, whose shall they be? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God." (Luke 12:16-21).


God bless you brother and your mom in our joint walk in Christ. 

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy UK     


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ez2u

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2008, 11:09:26 AM »

 a few months ago  I was talking to a brilliant young man about this very scenario He said this to me  the people that have these solar self sufficient home are going to be the first place to be plumage when the hard times come.  It will be the nomadic people that will make it  I believe it will be the ones God wants to make it for a purpose and He is preparing us now, for this event.  But I am not so convince of the necessity of this dooms day prophesy. As much as what I see happening right now in the good old USA  and that is the conversion of the three countries coming together  Canada, Mexico and United States.  Our dollar is being level down to theirs and so is our wages.  The rich are getting richer and the poor is getting poorer.  Which will be great for us  to shed ourselves of all the distractions and to live more simpler
could end up to help us move into the Will of the Father.  Just an opinion  peggy 
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lorrie

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2008, 01:20:50 PM »

HEY ez2u/Peggy-You and your friend are both correct as far as i am concerned , personally.
There has been a message from our Father growing in my spirit for some time now and the word nomadic hit me between the eyes-about a week ago i asked about riches and it seems to me many here like me are learning to live with less.It is not an easy lesson however i know that even if all i have is the clothes on my back and a few personal posessions i will be just fine and that is all i have.
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chuckt

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2008, 01:04:49 PM »

 Now this I am averring, brethren, the era is limited; that, furthermore, those also having wives may be as not having them,
30 and those lamenting as not lamenting, and those rejoicing as not rejoicing, and those buying as not retaining,
31 and those using this world as not using it up. For the fashion of this world is passing by.


our identity is not in lamenting nor rejoicing nor marriage, nor the things of this world. they are all passing away, we enjoy them but have  NO trust in them, for ours is in the heavens.

it is true, the ""fashion"" of this age/world is passing by and our hope is NOT in it.

may we ALL learn to be content in whatever situation we find ourselves in, keeping our thoughts on things above!


inlove
chuckt
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Roy Monis

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2008, 03:26:46 PM »



Hello Rough Times jaguar,

Interesting second question and circumstance.  Let me try to illustrate a scenario.

If everyone around you is really hungry and thirsty and cold and you are not, they will notice and be very concerned about your source of food or water or clothing or heat.  You won't have to worry too long about roving marauders, because your hungry neighbors will be at your front door seeking answers.  In that case, the only protection you will have will be to share ALL that you have willingly and to accept the consequences.  In other words, we all live or we all die together.  If you exercise any force to defend your property and food from marauders, they will regroup in a day or two and come back in force and take everything including your very lives, because they will feel justified in doing so.

Regarding the first question, it is good to plan for power outages and severe weather and lack of food delivery to your area for several days and even a generator is good if you have enough fuel to operate it for an extended period.  You Mom is probably experienced in unexpected situations and wise to think of these things ahead of time especially since she may be older and not able to cope with severe cold in the house or loss of refrigeration in the case of storage of medicines, frozen foods etc. and she may believe that she has an obligation to help her neighbors or others who would depend upon her.

Just the view of an older generation.

Bob


Hi everyone!My mother has been saying to me in the last few days that she thinks she should be preparing for food prices to go up-by stocking food and  other necessitys she also mentioned getting a generator.I personally do not feel that i need to concern myself --however i should not dismiss her feelings/thoughts on this subject perhapes it is our Father putting this thought in her head.
Are any of you preparing for a possibility of rioting and mauraders?

I want to say up front though i am not a passivist and i would not tolerate anyone stealing nor threatening me or mine, i just dont personally feel i should get any supplies stored up.
I want to know what to say to her, and i figured you 'guys' cuold help me out.

Hi! Jaguar

Bob has given some sound advice: “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." (Matt.6:19-21).

The thieves will most certainly want not just a share but the lot and you may lose your physical life protecting the wrong treasures.


God bless you brother and sister in our joint walk in Christ. 

Love in Christ Jesus.

Roy UK     

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EKnight

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2008, 01:38:58 AM »

If by bad time you are talking about the US economy, I keep hearing the word recession but I can't seem to get a seat in a restaurant, a parking space at the mall or tickets to a good movie on the weekends.  I see hundreds of SUV's, pickup trucks and oversized sedans everywhere I look.  In other words, at least where I live, no one even seems to be trying to cut back. 

I live about seven miles from the nearest store and I have been trying to coordinate our trips.  I am looking into a more fuel efficient car (I have an SUV for the winter because we need 4wd) but I also own a Honda fit which gets approx 40mpg.  Pretty good. I feel strongly that our dependence on foreign oil must stop.  Alternate energy sources are a must.  The price of fuel is driving up the price of everything!  I am worried. Somethings gotta give.

Eileen
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OBrenda

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Re: Prepare for rough times?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2008, 10:10:25 AM »

Hi Eileen,

I live in SW Florida and it's really bad here.  Scary bad....Lots of people out of work....Allot of Business's Closing Up....Crime escalating. We have seen several city Jobs terminated and have had to have Police protection at City Hall due to threats... that if people were fired they would come back with Guns and take people out!

Anything that has to do with real estate is in the proverbial toilet.  Someone told me recently that Canada has agreed to send it's Military in to our country to control rioting!!!  So if this is true , our Government is preparing for things to get allot worse.

About a Third of the homes in the town I live in are near or in forecloser!  I can see families going back to the ways of the "WALTONS"  (TV show)   Which may not be a bad idea, God probably wants us to stop focusing on "things" as much as people.

But as Jesus taught us I try to stay focused on "now/today" and realize that he is doing a work.  If suffering comes, I will have to accept it, as Christ did on the Cross, and have faith he will accomplish his will.  I also feel lead to prepare somewhat as when God warned Joseph to store up for a coming famine.  I don't think we should react in fear but in his Wisdom...I don't believe having a Plan B is not trusting in him!  (Just my Opinion)

There are allot of "Alarmists and Fear Mongers" out there.  Our Government tells us this is no big deal....Who are you going to believe?  I can share with you what I see, but you may never see it where you are, which I hope is true!
I try Not lean to my own understanding....Some days I am better at that than others...

Your Sister in Christ
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