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Swearing: I cannot understand it
gmik:
Whew. That was good Marques.
For Rustaf, would it be rendering to Caesar that which is Caesar?? If breaking an oath is the sin, does Rustaf plan on overthrowing Canada or not following the laws? Can he just affirm and not swear?? They must have some compromise when it comes to so many faiths and cultures wanting to be a citizen. Maybe an "I will" will suffice. Rustaf, have you checked all that out??
What do we do when we have to serve jury duty or appear in court? Do we swear to tell the truth the whole truth??? I agree w/ Ray it is better not to swear an oath if you don't need to, but are there cases where you need to???
I think like Suzie said, say the words, I mean like, back in the middle ages, if they said to me I will kill all your kids if you don't renounce Jesus, I can't say for sure I would be that strong so I mite have to say the words, I don't know.
I just don't want to judge anyone for doing something I don't know enough about. Maybe in Canada in this instance, letting your yea be yea, won't be good enough. My prayers are w/ you Rustaf.
rtashpulatov:
Hi,
No I am not planning to overthrow Canadian laws or something like that. However, quite often one may be confronted with dual loyalties, especially with dual nationalities. An example, is during WWII many Italian Americans were sent to Europe to fight a war against their relatives.
To pledge allegiance to a Qeen of Canada might mean that one will have to go to war that one does not approve.
This is what I am trying to say.
Rustam.
--- Quote from: gmik on June 09, 2008, 11:50:02 PM ---Whew. That was good Marques.
For Rustaf, would it be rendering to Caesar that which is Caesar?? If breaking an oath is the sin, does Rustaf plan on overthrowing Canada or not following the laws? Can he just affirm and not swear?? They must have some compromise when it comes to so many faiths and cultures wanting to be a citizen. Maybe an "I will" will suffice. Rustaf, have you checked all that out??
What do we do when we have to serve jury duty or appear in court? Do we swear to tell the truth the whole truth??? I agree w/ Ray it is better not to swear an oath if you don't need to, but are there cases where you need to???
I think like Suzie said, say the words, I mean like, back in the middle ages, if they said to me I will kill all your kids if you don't renounce Jesus, I can't say for sure I would be that strong so I mite have to say the words, I don't know.
I just don't want to judge anyone for doing something I don't know enough about. Maybe in Canada in this instance, letting your yea be yea, won't be good enough. My prayers are w/ you Rustaf.
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