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Why Must It Be This Way?
Pini56:
Hello Joe,
Well, that says it all. Here is something, also, to meditate on.
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. Isaiah Chapter 53.
With Love. Geoff.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Cindy,
Your perception is absolutely on the money, that is exactly right. We see that our Father had this plan for creating Sons and Daughters before even Jesus was created!
I remember when I was at the Conference and when this sunk in the tears began to well up and when I discreetly attempted to dry my eyes I turned to my left and I saw Harry next to me with tears streaming down his face as well.
This other part also sent me reeling once its full implication sunk in;
"Jesus Christ did something between His creation and the creation of the earth. He did something to acquire God’s glory, something. Because He had it and He didn’t get it for nothing."
Now that is also an incredible thing to meditate on, what did Christ go through to obtain the glory He shared with our Father even before He walked this earth? I had the perception that Christ was created as a perfect Son right from His very beginning and at times even had the thought that all this glory and power was just given to Him as to make everything quite a bit easier for Him to carry the burdon He eventually was charged with, but we know that our Father does not do things in that manner.
This is one of the endless things we will learn once we are all finally in God's Kingdom with our full inheritance.
His Peace to you Sister,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Hi Geoff,
So true!
Ray also went into a rather detailed illumination of these verses from Isaiah as well, he held up a picture of the Hollywood/Babylon version of Jesus and contrasted that with what Isaiah wrote. Very powerful stuff, there was a lot of kleenex and hankerchiefs being whipped out about that time. ;)
Excellent addition Brother!
Peace,
Joe
pylady:
This other part also sent me reeling once its full implication sunk in;
"Jesus Christ did something between His creation and the creation of the earth. He did something to acquire God’s glory, something. Because He had it and He didn’t get it for nothing."
Now that is also an incredible thing to meditate on, what did Christ go through to obtain the glory He shared with our Father even before He walked this earth? I had the perception that Christ was created as a perfect Son right from His very beginning and at times even had the thought that all this glory and power was just given to Him as to make everything quite a bit easier for Him to carry the burdon He eventually was charged with, but we know that our Father does not do things in that manner.
Such an interesting thought, Joe. I always wondered how Jesus could have been so humble when on earth since He knew He was God's son. Now I know - He learned through His experiences. Makes you wonder what He went thru to be able to say "The Son can do nothing of His own initiative, but only what He beholds the Father doing"!
Is there such a thing as a teenage spirit??? ;D Or maybe He wasn't spirit when He went thru these experiences? ???
Lots of interesting questions - but, alas, we'll have to wait for the answers right now while we learn humility, patience, and all those other wonderful fruits of the spirit that He learned so perfectly. Meanwhile we can look forward to the day when we can converse with Him face to face.
Your sister in Christ,
Cindy :)
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: pylady on June 12, 2008, 07:42:49 PM ---
Meanwhile we can look forward to the day when we can converse with Him face to face.
--- End quote ---
Hello Cindy,
Great thought to contemplate, actually one of my very favorites and just imagine, we will have all the rest of eternity to converse with Him!
Peace,
Joe
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