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EKnight:
Alleluia Paul!!

I was just about to give up on this thread.

Eileen

Paul:
 :)

ciy:
Jesus is explaining the parable to the disciples to show that it is a parable.  He is not explaining it to the multitudes.  The multitudes will not understand it. 

Like Ray says all the bible is spiritual and is actually happening inside of you.  This parable is what is going on in the world but the main point is that it is going on within you.  The revelation of Jesus Christ is within, so are all of the Words of the bible.  The physical first then the spiritual.  The bible is a parable.

CIY

Stevernator:
Also the book of Daniel comes to mind. Arcturus made a great point in a thread that inspired me to read Daniel. In it, three Jews were thrown in a furnace of fire but they were not hurt by it since they had trusted their lives to God rather than submit to iniquity.

Revelation 2:11
He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.

mharrell08:
Hello All:

I thought of Ray's paper on Spiritual Truths (http://bible-truths.com/twelve.htm) when I saw people posting how Jesus 'explained' the parables to his disciples. Well not exactly and here's an excerpt from Ray paper:

The multitudes did not understand Jesus’ parables; the Scribes and Pharisees did not understand Jesus’ parables; the hundreds of disciples did not understand Jesus’ parables, and as unbelievable as it may sound, not even the APOSTLES understood Jesus’ parables. Now get ready for another shock:

Not only did none of the above including the Apostles themselves, understand any of Jesus’ parables, but they did not understand the parables after Jesus EXPLAINED the parables! And how is such a thing even possible? Well, get ready for an even greater shock:

The reason they didn’t understand the parables even after Jesus explained them, is because Jesus explained His parables WITH ANOTHER PARABLE! That’s right, Jesus explained the parables that the Apostles themselves didn’t understand, by another parable, which they also did not understand.

In Matt. 13:10, we read, "And the disciples came, and said unto Him, Why speak you unto them in parables?" In verse 11 Jesus said it is given to His disciples to understand (but He didn’t say WHEN it was given for them to understand), and then in verse 12 Jesus says:

    "For whosoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever has not, from him shall be taken away even that he has."

In other words, another parable. Jesus explained the first parable that they didn’t understand with another parable, which they did not understand.

A little later:

    "Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house, and His disciples came unto Him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that sows the good seed is the Son of man: the field is the world…,"

Etc., etc., which is nothing more than yet another parable to explain a previous parable.

Jesus does not explain "the children of the kingdom," "the children of the wicked one," "the devil," "the reaper angels," "the end of the world," "The Son of man," "furnace of fire," "the kingdom of their Father," anymore than He explained what the first version of the parable was, and therefore, He had to add this to the end of His explanation: "Who has ears to hear, let him hear." But none there had "ears to ear," as we shall now see conclusively proven.

Hope this helps,

Marques

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