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OBrenda:
Hi Rick,

Thank you for keeping us updated, and we continue to pray for you and Shelly through her surgery and recovery!  My Friend was just considering taking hormones (natural) to battle the fatigue suffering from the "change".  After reading your post, that idea is down the "sewer" with Shelley's pills!

Do you have supportive family & friends to encourage you through this?

lorrie:
Hi Rick and Shelley-You are in my prayers.

Beloved:

I am writing this as information for you and the board. When something is labeled "natural" it does not mean harmless.  Every Estrogen out there except one is synthetic. The "natural" one is Premarin...it comes from horses urine...it is totally natural and bio-identical for the horse.

All other estrogens and progesterone/progestins (the 2nd hormone) are synthesized by the pharmaceutical ....but are bio-identical...that means they are chemically just like your body would produce. This includes all those special compounded formulas as well.

Regarding estrogen and breast cancer,  it is not as simple as just taking these chemicals.  There are many factors not always known to the medical profession, including genetics. Your body is unique in how it handles what the world throws at it.

When you take estrogen it is metabolized...it is these metabolites that do the actions not estrogen itself.  Many people do not metabolize even their own estrogens properly.

There are also substances like pesticides and other substances that chemically are not even related to hormones but that because of the 3 D configuration bind to the same receptors as estrogen and when they do they cause action. There are many of these in our environment.

Eating cruciferous vegtables (they have indole 3), it causes estrogen to be metabolized to its least harmful metabolites. It is these metabolites that attach to the DNA and start cell mis-behaving.  Cruciforous vegetables are broccoli cauliflower brussel sprouts cabbage. Eat on serving a day. It reduces other cancer also.

Drinking excess amounts alcohol can raise the serum hormone level by 500%

The other substance implicated in Breast Cancer is low  Vitamin D levels. You get it milk and the skin makes it after expose for i5 minutes of sunlight.

Another factor is body fat, it is the fat cells that store hormones, they are not sitting there inert, they also produce a lot of inflammatory response. they surround these breast cells.

Rick and Shelly do not sit there feeling guilty about taking estrogen. They can test estrogen and progesterone receptors of the cancer and if present they have another tool to fight with .

Here is something also to ponder
SEATTLE, Jan. 15 2008 -- Postmenopausal women who take combination hormone therapy for as little as three years have a fourfold increased risk of invasive lobular breast cancer, researchers
here said.

But short-term use of estrogen/progestin hormone replacement therapy appeared to have little effect on the risk of invasive ductal carcinoma, according to Christopher Li, M.D., Ph.D., of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center here, and colleagues.

The case-control study of more than 1,500 women confirms earlier, smaller investigations that linked combination hormone therapy with lobular breast cancer, the researchers reported in the January issue of Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention

If you are having this radical surgery make sure they discuss the reconstruction of the breast also. Let the office check with your insurance before.

Rest in the Lord for right now.

Beloved

Samson:

--- Quote from: Snowfire on June 19, 2008, 08:46:31 PM ---My Wife was diagnosed yesterday with Invasive Massive Ductal Carcinoma and Cancer of the Lymph Node in her left breast.  I ask for the Prayers of Brethrens for my Wife and I as we go thru this fiery trial together.

Thy will be done, on Earth, As it is in Heaven.
Rick  :'(

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Hello Rick(Snowfire),

                              Sorry to hear about your wife(Shelly), My Wife(Freckle Girl) and I will pray that everything turns out okay. I'ts nice to have a Doctor(Beloved) on board, generally speaking, I don't have too much faith in Doctors and Lawyers, especially Lawyers, no offense intended toward those members who occupy these positions. It was nice that Beloved shared that information with you. My wife's ancestry includes those who have had cancer related to your situation. Anyway, we will pray for a successfull outcome and pray both of you are able to endure the trial set before you.

                                            Faith, Hope and Love, Samson.

ailish:

--- Quote from: Snowfire on June 19, 2008, 08:46:31 PM ---My Wife was diagnosed yesterday with Invasive Massive Ductal Carcinoma and Cancer of the Lymph Node in her left breast.  I ask for the Prayers of Brethrens for my Wife and I as we go thru this fiery trial together.

Thy will be done, on Earth, As it is in Heaven.
Rick  :'(

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may god bless you both and keep you both in his care
god does heal.  a lady i know had breast cancer.  it had gone into the lymph nodes and she had a mastectomy.  she was to have further treatment and when she went back to see the specialist she was told there was no evidence of cancer now.
god bless you both

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