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Hell, Satan's Heaven?
hillsbororiver:
This thought occurred to me again as I was reading the following "Email to Ray" from a concerned Christian;
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7544.0.html
The people who are presently deceived by the hell doctrine really have to do some extreme thought contortions to be able to rationalize what exactly Satan and his demons are doing in hell, are they being punished or are they doing exactly what they love doing, tormenting mankind.
Even as a child it had often crossed my mind; "Why does God give a fiery kingdom to the devil to do what he pleases with human beings?" Why should Satan have eternity to do what he loves?
According to the hell proponents Satan is the one who inspires sinful activity, he is the instigator, the facilitator of evil activity, do they ever ask themselves why Satan who was supposedly created a perfect being who decided to challenge God gets a kingdom of his own to torture people who were not born perfect, who actually started life at a huge disadvantage in comparison to a perfect angelic being?
I have discussed this with a few Christians and the premise I proposed did little other than upset them, of course I then changed the subject in the hope they would further (prayerfully) contemplate this question on their own at some future point.
Peace,
Joe
Kent:
I dont understand it. I dont understand how they can believe this contradiction, and I dont understand why they get so upset (angry!) when it is pointed out to them.
I know why it is, but I dont understand it. I hope you know what i mean by that.
IMO they may as well call themselves satanists, since they give him all of the glory and power. ???
EKnight:
I was reading on some site this guy who was trying to defunct Ray's teaching of aions and aionios etc etc, and how eternal is in the bible yada yada yada. And I thought to myself, why would anyone want to go out of their way to prove that eternal is in the bible just to defend the doctrine of eternal punishment (this person didn't necessarily agree with the "burning torture eternally" doctrine. Nonetheless, the teaching is NOT GOOD NEWS so why would you want to perpetuate it???
Eileen
Firefly:
I think that they are brainwashed in a way and they are scared to believe something different. I know when I first started to hear about no hell I thought "oh it's another cult". I had been so indoctrinated with the hell concept all my life and then it was layered on super thick from ages 18 to 37 when I was a "born again christian". I was really scared when my husband told me he didn't believe in hell anymore. I thought he was into a cult and I don't really know what else the fear was about. I just know I was really scared. But what you said Joe about Satan getting a place to torture humans makes no sense. I can't believe I could not see the absurdity in it for all those years. I thank God He has shown me these truths.
Lori :)
gmik:
If you contort your thinking long enough than it is easy and doesn't feel like you are "contorting" :D. Believing the lie just gets easier and you don't have to "think". Remember in that other post about polls and catholics will fight to the death to say they are catholic but don't have a clue what it teaches.
Too many people are lazy to get in the bible so they just parrot what they think others are saying. Then if they do check it out, their eyes are blinded anyway, and they just don't get it!
But why oh why would ANYONE want that to be true??????
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