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Hell, Satan's Heaven?
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Kent on June 25, 2008, 12:34:50 PM ---
I know why it is, but I dont understand it. I hope you know what i mean by that.
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Hi Kent,
I know exactly what you mean, God addresses this Himself;
Isa 28:21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Peace,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: KristaD on June 26, 2008, 06:13:32 PM ---You know I never looked at it that way. Why would God give satan such pleasure for all eternity??? That makes no sense at all. I always knew that the heaven and hell one shot at life concept seemed totally unfair and just plain ridiculous for an all knowing God but I never saw that simple aspect of it. Thank you for sharing that Joe, a truly inspired thought and I will be using that one ;).
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Hi Krista,
An amazing thing for sure, this certainly is an interesting journey He has us on, isn't it?
Peace,
Joe
rjsurfs:
Hello All,
I have questioned how much if at all Satan is "pleasured".
As Ray points out in the LoF Part 9 that Satan always shows up when needed:
--- Quote ---It was GOD’S idea to severely try Job, not Satan’s. But Satan took strict orders from God as to just how he could try Job. Satan got permission from God at each and every step of this severe trying of Job. Do we think God does it differently today? Do we think Satan now has "free reign"- "free will?" Do we think that God "changes?" Nonsense: "For I am the LORD, I change not…" (Mal. 3:6).
David prayed for God to use Satan in judging his enemies:
"Set you a wicked man over him: and let SATAN stand at his right hand" (Psalm 109:6).
Are not these activities of Satan necessary? Does God use Satan for no good purpose? Then why can’t men see that God also CREATED Satan for these very purposes?
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Satan takes orders from God so well that I have wondered what feelings if any he may experience... however we do read:
Luk 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
Satan did "desire"... the Greek root is ask, beg, call for, crave, desire... he desired to put Peter to trial. Jesus declared the outcome when he prayed for Peter but it certainly appears that Satan has wants and desires... which considering the end of the age as we have been shown I find it very interesting.
Bobby
kweli:
--- Quote from: Kent on June 25, 2008, 12:34:50 PM ---IMO they may as well call themselves satanists, since they give him all of the glory and power.
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And they dont get that too
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on June 26, 2008, 06:45:41 AM ---Praise God!
Isn't it amazing that once our eyes are opened to this and we see the real Light how very obvious it is? But at one time we all were blind to it to some degree or another, without His grace, without His Spirit we would also be stumbling about and parroting this doctrine of devils. All glory goes to God!
Peace
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Amen
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Bobby Proctor on June 26, 2008, 07:05:48 PM ---
I have questioned how much if at all Satan is "pleasured".
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Hi Bobby,
Good question, the way I am perceiving that is Satan has an insatiable desire to control and consume man's carnal mind. Perhaps it is similar to what a lion feels when hungry and sees his prey on the horizon, stalks it, overcomes it, consumes it and then he experiences that temporary satisfaction of an appetite being filled.
Since he eats the "dust of the earth" (that's us) there must be some pleasure he derives from overcoming us, just like we are satisfied after a juicy steak dinner.
Peace,
Joe
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