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Hell, Satan's Heaven?

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Akira329:
Triton that was funny :D

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Triton on June 30, 2008, 11:16:11 PM ---
Do you guys think the worms will be happy? ;)


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Happy and very fat!

Great observation Triton.

Peace,

Joe

Patrick:

--- Quote from: Kent on July 01, 2008, 06:16:53 AM ---
Just like regenerative buckets of KFC


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Make it Popeye's New Orleans spicy, and I'll be fatter and happier. ;)

David:
Hi Triton.
When examined the heresy of eternal hell is so full of contradictions, foolish misconceptions, and physical impossibilities, that we could spend a great deal of time pointing them out.
For instance, the majority of Christians believe that hell is a literal physical location, and there are billions of people there NOW burning for their sins. They believe that sinners enter hell fully conscious with a physical body. Question, how does a physical body endure being burned continually for even a day, let alone for eternity without turning to ash? I used to know a couple of guys that worked in a crematorium. According to them a body is turned to ash in no more than an hour when it goes into the furnace.
The answer I invariably get from Christians is that these sinners with their physical bodies cannot die once they are in hell, so therefore they burn forever. Well that poses more questions than it answers anyway, and still doesn't answer how a physical body alive or dead withstands continual burning and remains intact. But we also have another problem, so now these sinners have eternal life, which according to scripture can only be given through Jesus Christ. Answer is typically "well yes, Jesus gives them eternal life so that they can be punished eternally for their sins and for rejecting the Gospel." So now they turn Jesus Christ into a depraved monster, and they have a hell full of repentant believers. Think about it, if they rejected Christ and the Gospel, well they sure as grass is green won't now will they, not if they've been judged in the very presence of Christ. And if they are fully aware of their fate for their sins etc which is a fair assumption given that they are fully conscious in a living physical body, and this fire hole full of tortured physical bodies exists, well I think even Saddam Hussein is going to start to do some serious repenting, but according to Christians, too late, tough luck, they are going to hell.

Dave in Tenn:
I don't mean to argue, but to run with a point that David made.  A majority of Christians might well believe that Hell is full of physical bodies.  Many don't, however, arguing that hell is full of tormented souls.  Both of these views contradict each other and both would be willing to call the other heretical.  Add to this equation Individualistic beliefs, concepts, and visions of Hell--each capable of deeming all others heresy--and you get such a twisted mishmash of contradictions within contradictions that God Himself is the only One smart enough to untangle.

In terms of the 'Hellites' attacking US, how complex a defense we must make if that's our goal!  To stand our guard against assaults from dozens or even hundreds of 'official' Hell doctrines joined by Militias of Millions of Unofficial, individualistic combatants and we're sure to get bogged down.

Which of the following propositions is closer to the truth as WE understand it?

1.  There used to be a Hell, but now there isn't because the scriptures prove it.

2.  The Scriptures teach that there is no Hell.

3.  The Scriptures do not teach Hell.

I'm going with #3.  They, instead, teach the Gospel and many other wonderful truths.

There are reasons why the Hellites need to hear this truth, without doubt.  The rest of the world needs to hear it too. I don't want to make the focus of THE Gospel #2 above.

If I'm not getting it, let me know.

Added next day:  This is what has been so powerful about reading Ray's articles.  YES, he takes on all comers with boldness.  But he also 'replaces' error with truth by teaching truth in the course of dealing with those that contradict. 

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