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How would you respond to this rebuttal of Ray's article on Lucifer?
Chris R:
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--- Quote ---How would you respond to this rebuttal of Ray's article on Lucifer?
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I wouldn't.
Craig
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Me either
Chris R
Samson:
--- Quote from: Chris R on June 30, 2008, 06:46:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Craig on June 30, 2008, 01:40:06 PM ---
--- Quote ---How would you respond to this rebuttal of Ray's article on Lucifer?
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I wouldn't.
Craig
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Me either
Chris R
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Hello Everyone,
I agree with Chris & Craig and not because it's convenient. I have enough trouble spending adequate time reading, listening and repeating that process, then trying to retain Ray's explanations on things that are considered Foundational in regards to my personal belief system, this is not to say that I don't venture occasionally elsewhere, because I do, but I don't have the desire to debate elsewhere at Bible based Web-sites or those that want to critique and put through a microscope minute details on what precisely the Hebrew word and meaning regarding Lucifer and it's Latin equivalent. From my understanding, Latin has done much damage in translation, especially the New Testament, the so-called Latin Church Fathers were the ones whi misrepresented the Greek Word AION and started the ball rolling regarding the eternal punishment heresy, aka-Augustine and others who didn't adequately understand the Greek Language.
Sorry, I went into a tangent and rambled on, but I wish I had an English Bible Translation that translates from the Greek directly to the English, bypassing the step of Latin.
Samson.
EKnight:
If I venture out (like Samson said) and I know that Ray spoke on the subject at hand, I usually copy and paste the actual paper Ray wrote or just bible-truths.com. That way, maybe someone comes here and learns more than they expected and if not, so be it.
Eileen
Falconn003:
--- Quote from: Paul on June 30, 2008, 08:38:05 AM ---Sorry, but that article is junk. The Latin "lucifer" was/is the same celestial body (Venus) as the Hebrew "helel ben shahar," so Jerome's translation was correct.
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Ray spends MONTHS, WEEKS, DAYS and HOURS on writting articles and even more in editing and re-writing them. COMPARED to the little time, that it took a person to call an article JUNK, based solely on thier opinions and premise of ""so Jerome's translation was correct"" and other writers, who are alienated to the terms of Spirit, Spirituality and Living Words. These writers would rather embrace the veil of context, literally and law, til thier death beacons them.
Ray writes articles based on SPIRITUAL Truths not opinions, and yet opposers DO NOT stipulate SCRIPTURE/s as INCORRECT or FALSE in anyone's JUNK ASSESMENT.
FACT: That is just plain DUMB !
It is an easier task rebutting vanity, then taking on the inspired articles written on the Word of God.
Seems opposers (spirit of anit-christ ) have a personal problem understandinig the article/s , and .....well......it is a PERSONAL PROBLEM !
Peace
Rodger
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