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I don't know enough
Kat:
Hi Eileen,
Well we did study the Bible quite a bit when I was in Worldwide Church of God. Now I am familiar with so many Scriptures and that helps a lot.
I just don't think there are any short cuts, it is going to take a lot of reading and study. I don't have good reading comprehension either, but believe me if you read it enough you will start to remember it. But I think more than remembering chapter and verse, you need to learn the stories, then you will remember things that way. Get a Bible translation that is easy for you to read, I like the New King James, the headings let you know what's coming up. Something like The Good News Bible is easy to read and if you go through chapters at a time, you can get content, this way you can understand the story flow.
When Studying Ray's papers pay close attention to the Scriptures, he uses a lot of them. When looking at a single Scripture that you can't figure out, look it up and read the verses before and after it, to get the content, sometimes I read several chapters.
Also when studying a Scripture or passage look up the cross-references from the commentaries, looking up other Scriptures will give you more on the subject.
Concordances, dictionaries and other helps, offered at these online Bible sites all help in your study.
Hope this is helpful :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
EKnight:
Hi Kat,
Funny you should mention stories because another problem I am facing is like history. Ray's teachings seem to involve a lot of bible history, or knowing the ways of that time period. History, ugh, not my forte.
I have been doing what you mentioned--->taking a verse and reading before and after it. That is helping. And now I have e-sword live, which Bobby gave me the link to, that is helping as well.
Rather than develop a whole new topic for post, I will ask another question of you here; who is Paul referring to in Cor. when he speaks of Apollos??
Thanks,
Eileen
Kat:
Yes that E-Sword Live was new to me that should be a great help. I use the search function on E-Sword and study all kinds of topics.
I found this in Easton's Bible dictionary.
Apollos
A Jew “born at Alexandria,” a man well versed in the Scriptures and eloquent (Act_18:24; R.V., “learned”). He came to Ephesus (about A.D. 49), where he spake “boldly” in the synagogue (Act_18:26), although he did not know as yet that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah. Aquila and Priscilla instructed him more perfectly in “the way of God”, i.e., in the knowledge of Christ. He then proceeded to Corinth, where he met Paul (Act_18:27; Act_19:1). He was there very useful in watering the good seed Paul had sown (1Co_1:12), and in gaining many to Christ. His disciples were much attached to him (1Co_3:4-7, 1Co_3:22). He was with Paul at Ephesus when he wrote the First Epistle to the Corinthians; and Paul makes kindly reference to him in his letter to Titus (Tit_3:13). Some have supposed, although without sufficient ground, that he was the author of the Epistle to the Hebrews.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
rjsurfs:
Hi Kat,
You said:
--- Quote ---Well we did study the Bible quite a bit when I was in Worldwide Church of God. Now I am familiar with so many Scriptures and that helps a lot.
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I am glad you pointed that out... I guess I did study more than I usually think about or realize as well. I grew up in a very religious home which meant church at least twice on Sunday and then every Wednesday night. My parents sent me to a private Christian school growing up... so I had an hour of Bible Study each day and a thirty minute worship service each day... at school.
I know I had read the Bible many times through... funny thing though and I mentioned this today with a friend... is how often now I may read the scripture and think, "how did that get in there?"... so many of the verses regarding the salvation of all, many and the few, etc... I just read over. If you think about it... so many of the verses we study now are the very ones that the church will just skip over quickly.
Good point though because I have known many from the WCG and they usually are quite familiar with the scriptures.
Bobby
Samson:
--- Quote from: Bobby Proctor on June 30, 2008, 08:44:54 PM ---Hi Eileen,
Find Kat's post on e-Sword.
I doubt many of us here if any knew the scriptures when we came out of the church of man. What we knew we didn't understand... what we understood was probably wrong.
I didn't join this forum for at least a year into studying Ray... but honestly I never saw the link for the longest. I read the forum long before I posted.
All I can say is study.... and they some more. You will be amazed at how fast you start retaining the scripture.
Pray for understanding and a love for the truth.
Bobby
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Hello Eileen,
Bobby Proctor makes some good points and that's why I brought his quotes with my Post. As Yoda tells Luke SkyWalker in The Empire Strikes Back; " You must unlearn, what you have learned". This doesn't apply to everything, but is somewhat true in my case, I was a Jehovah's Witness for twenty years and they had an interpretation and answer for every Scripture. One good thing about them, they trained me to be good at research, when using my Bible. A bible with good foot notes will show you how a verse can be rendered differently, also their Translation of the Bible removes those spurious passages that weren't in the best and oldest Manuscripts, the ones that are listed and compiled by Kat at our Forum Index. Also a good concordance that's built into your Bible helps, because it will show you other Scriptures that are related to the Scripture and passage your reading. If your reading the New Testament, it will show you from what Hebrew Scripture that the New Testament writer is quoting from. Most of the New Testament Scriptures are a quotation of the Old or alluding to the Old. An example of that is at Romans. 10:13 where it says, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be Saved"; that's quoting Joel.2:32. If the concordance is built right into the translation your using, you'll see a little letter that corresponds with the Scripture your reading, showing you where the writer quoting from and/or other Scriptures that may relate to that Scripture. I can't think of anything else at this time, surely another member will give you some other pointers.
Your Brother, Samson.
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