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Ray on TV
nightmare sasuke:
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--- Quote from: shibboleth ---I would like to see Ray on Larry King and any other talk show in the country. I would like to hear Ray on the radio talk shows too. Maybe we could start a letter campaign or phon campaign to one of the talk shows to get Ray on. Maybe if one show was bombarded for a few weeks, they would give it some thought. I could look into it if anyone is interested.
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I'm interested!! Like I said before, I would love to see (or hear) Ray on some talk show. But do you really think there's enough of us to get him on, even if we all wrote/called? And who would debate him? He says they all backed out.
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I'm interested as well. But like you said Isabell, who would debate him? I think getting Ray on Larry King or CNN would be alot easier than finding someone who will debate him. :lol:
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I wanna see Ray on TV!!!! lol.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Steve Crook ---I'm telling you all right now, as you read these words, "You don't know what you are asking for". Well, there you have it, from my hands to your eyes. :P
When the 2 witnesses are laying in the street for all eyes to see, well, time is short from that moment on. It already is short enough as it is. Pray all, and count the cost. The time IS at hand.
God Bless
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Steve Crook can you explain to me what you just said.. thats to biblicaly symbolic for my dull spiritual eyes to understand at this moment... explanation?
Thanks! :D
P.S. Isn't this turning Ray into a sort of Idol? Just asking.. im probably wrong but okay! Peace!
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Becky ---they'd kill him one way or another..... even if he was speking the truth.
at first I was against it.. because I personally am not ready to answer the world... But if God wants Ray (or anyone) to publicly speak the truth... then GOD BE WITH HIM! (and all of us who are prepared to give the reason for the hope that we have)
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Remember Jesus said that when they bring you up to be questioned, do not worry about what you will say for the Holy Spirit will teach you at the time what to say :)
Hehe i always found that cool and im Glad Jesus is gonna be right there with us, speaking through us because i would surely stumble on my own.
Bob Miller:
Creflo Dollar:
The ministry's income is unavailable, but newspaper accounts say the ministry paid $18 million in cash for his new 8,000-seat World Changers Church International on the southern edge of Atlanta. He flies to speaking engagements across the nation and Europe in a $5 million private jet and drives a black Rolls-Royce. and travels in a $5 million private jet. Dollar's ministry became a focus of a court case involving boxer Evander Holyfield in 1999. The lawyer for Holyfield's ex-wife estimated that the fighter gave Dollar's ministry $7 million. Dollar refused to testify in the case. (St. Louis Post-Dispatch. STLtoday.com 11/18/2003)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Mar. 5, 2000 says this
The Rev. Creflo Dollar Jr. has unabashedly embraced his name by building a religious empire on the message that his brand of piety leads to prosperity. He drives a black Rolls-Royce, flies to speaking engagements across the nation and Europe in a $5 million private jet and lives in a $1 million home behind iron gates in an upscale Atlanta neighborhood... The World Changers campus sits on a slight hill... Inside the church is a lobby befitting a five-star hotel. Chairs are scattered about on baby blue carpet thick enough to muffle the sound of the stadium-size crowd arriving for a Sunday service... There are no visible traditional Christian symbols - no cross, no image of Jesus, no stained-glass windows...Dollar lives in a $1 million home owned by the church in the Guilford Forest subdivision in southwest Atlanta. World Changers purchased another $1 million home on 27 acres in Fayette County in December. The church has amassed a fortune in real estate, mostly in College Park... As World Changers grew, so did Dollar's emphasis on prosperity. Dollar has no degree in theology. Much of his prosperity message, according to church and his family members, is based on the teachings of friend and spiritual mentor Kenneth Copeland... And a frequent criticism - that the church refuses to help nontithers - isn't true either, Lett said. Tithers simply "have priority," she said. People are not allowed to touch Dollar during services, she said, simply because "the anointing is flowing at that point." She said the church purchased a Rolls-Royce for Dollar's use because "he deserves the best."
dcfreedom:
Paul told us that he defended the scriptures in the synagogue he did not debate them. i don't think Ray would debate with anyone. i think we use the word debate the wrong way. i think if he went on t.v. he would defend not debate. a debate is just like an argument which we are not to do.
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