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Going to church?
Stevernator:
I was also raised Catholic and I have not been to church in months. It was not a huge deal when I stopped going because we as a family have only been attending occassionally. My grandmother was a bit upset that I'm no longer Catholic but it was no big deal. Many of my friends are Christians but not overly religous. When the subject comes up I talk about how the church is teaching lies and also about bible-truths.com. Usually when I explain they seem to consider some of the things but not really investigate for themselves.
So fortunately for me my close ones are rather tolerant.
To those who have trouble I'd like to offer some verses for encouragement and edification.
2 tim 3:12
12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
Matt 10
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
I would also like to add that I am much more content after reading bible-truths and disassociating from traditional churches. Sure there is some initial shock from family but I believe it is necessary to come out fully of Babylon and fully worth it.
David:
My local Cathedral is open all day, and so I often go in and just sit down in there when there are no services. You can just sit quietly on your own in relative silence. I don't go sundays for the service. Its a beautiful old place, and just a nice place to be. I find I can go there and not have to think about some of the stuff that's preached there on a Sunday, I can just sit and enjoy the building, walk around its huge walkways and admire the architecture, read all the inscriptions on the stones etc and learn about the history of the place. Also I occasionally go to the sunday evening Gregorian choir concerts because I just love ancient Gregorian music. I don't have a clue whats being said as most of it is in Latin, but its just glorious to listen to in the setting of an old Cathedral.
Luckily here in Britain and Europe visiting ancient Churches and Cathedrals doesn't have to be about all the false doctrines in the Church, as a visitor you can get so much more out of it.
So yes I go to Church, but No I do not attend services anymore. If its a family or friends wedding or Christening or confirmation that I'm invited to, off course I'll go and join in the service and celebration. I don't feel there's a conflict between attending a Church wedding etc, and coming out of the Babylonian Church system. After all, the modern Anglican Wedding ceremony and service has practically nothing to do with Biblical marriage anyway, its come down mainly from ancient Germanic pagan marriage rituals adopted by the early European Church (according to Encyclopedia Britanica and many other secular historical sources).
I think once we're out of Babylon spiritually, I don't see how physically being in a Church attending a wedding etc is going to taint our minds and hearts. If it does then we're probably not spiritually out of Babylon yet.
OBrenda:
Hi Eileen,
I was wondering if your daughter or anyone else misses going to church and wants to still go? Young Girls often dream of their wedding day, and plan and picture it in their minds. I don't know how old your daughter is, but if this is a concern for her, maybe you can help her to see her Wedding Day with a fresh look. Encourage her to be creative in the setting, and the ceremony. The foundation of a Marriage Ceremony is the exchanging of Vows in the presence of God, and he is everywhere.
I don't know if catholics still restrict the ceremony to inside a church? If so, it may be liberating for her to know she can now have it outside in a garden setting, or on a beach.
I also wouldn't have a problem with attending any church or temple for Weddings or Funerals, or even to see a Child's Christmas play. When my Husband's parents come down to visit, we sometimes go to Mass with them. It makes his Mom happy, and I focus on what we have in common in our faith. When your family reacts to your not taking the sacrament at the upcoming Weddings, if questioned you may simply tell them that you are not at a place you feel comfortable talking about it yet, and to keep you in prayer! Then when you feel led by God to do so, you can give answer with the armor of God.
It won't be easy, my family has reacted with distaste everytime I have brought things up about God's truth. But at least they are out of the Church and aren't trying to drag me back in one. I'm sure everyone here will pray and support you though these things.
Brenda
Paul:
Why would you want to go to a church that isn't even remotely close to Ray's teachings?
EKnight:
--- Quote from: Paul on July 14, 2008, 08:40:09 AM ---Why would you want to go to a church that isn't even remotely close to Ray's teachings?
--- End quote ---
I don't. I just feel for the rest of my family(my husband and kids) that there is a lack of structured worship and so they don't do anything. At least they used to hear a reading from the old testament and two from the new testament on Sundays. But since I found BT, they don't do anything.
Eileen
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