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Conformed Prior to Resurrection?
Dave in Tenn:
What you are saying is that we are being conformed to the image of Christ NOW--before the resurrection? A work of God to be completed in or after the Resurrection? I certainly believe that. I'm betting the caterpillar does too. :D
But boy, if I'm wrong it's the last time I take the word of a bug!
Kat:
Hi Joyce,
I like your butterfly analogy :)
Here is a section from the article no. 12 'GOD JUDGES THE WORLD IN A POND.'
http://bible-truths.com/lake12.html -------------------------------
NOT YET IN THE IMAGE OF GOD
Few indeed realize that being made into the image of God is much the same as being saved—IT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS!
Check all the verses in the original: "now saving," "to save," "shall save," "might save," "are being saved," etc. "For by grave ARE ye saved through faith…" tells us HOW we are being saved, not WHEN (Eph. 2:08). Verses such as I Cor. 1:18 in the King James, "…but unto us which ARE saved it is the power of God," is not a faithful rendering of the Greek. Check an interlinear. The words are thus: "…to-THE YET ones-beING-SAVED US…" Yes, often the original manuscripts have only endings and not the complete word, as in "ING." It clearly shows and uncompleted action.
Creating man in God’s image:
King James Version: "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness… So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; make and female created He them" (Gen. 1:26a & 27).
Concordant Version: "And saying is the Alueim [Hebrew: elohiym, gods or used of the supreme God--plural of elowahh, a deity or the Deity], Make will We humanity in Our image, and according to Our likeness… And creating is the Alueim humanity in His image. In the Image of the Alueim He creates it. Male and female He creates them" (Gen. 1:26a & 27).
So we see here the same thing we have already discussed with regards to the Greek aorist tense of verbs, as in "For God so lovED the world" versus "For thus God lovES the world." God’s love for the world CONTINUES! And creating man in God’s image also CONTINUES!
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
joyful1:
Kat, thanks for taking the time to post this...it really helps keep it all in perspective! :D
Dave--I guess it is okay to learn from the caterpillar--we learn from the ant--right? heheheh ;D
I was thinking.....Ray's paper also points out that the WHOLE world is involved....not just ourselves as individuals....I think this WHOLE-NESS is a wonderful thing! This verse comes to mind:
Hebrews 11:40
God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
I am going to say that Hebrews 11 makes me cry when I read it...
because those that came before us, who were justified for their faith, who were promised a thing that they would not yet SEE, were persuaded that it was REAL enough to be sawn into for....these guys are true heroes...and examples! It's like that for us, if God gives us such a position; we must live by the faith that He gives us, but we must "reckon" that the "glory" which SHALL BE REVEALED is so great, that the suffering of this life cannot even compare to it!
Romans 8:18
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
I cry when I read Hebrews 11 and Romans 8....because I know....that it is true....it IS worth it....and the "knowing" is not my own...its His!
Joyce :'(
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