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jakfr0s:
 Hi all! Ive been thinking alot about why im here and why God has shown me the stuff on this site. The only thing that has changed in my life is now I know the Truth through Ray from God. The only time I read Scriptures is when someone quotes it on this site. I have esword and bibles of my own, but I rarely read them.

 I wasnt even gonna come back here to be honest, or at least thats what I had planned. But here Iam, not sure why. What could God possibly want from me? Iam nobody! Iam still the same sinner I was before I came here. Maybe someone here could point me to some Scripture that will help? I dunno.

 One thing I noticed was when I asked Jesus for help He really helped me. Like whenever I was thinking of something I shouldnt be I would ask Him for help and He did. It seems He is working on my patience with people, but Im still angry all the time and I feel I could snap at any time if someone messes with me.

 You know all I really wanted to know was where my grandma is after she died. At least now I know the Truth about what really happens after death. Maybe that is the only reason God has shown me all this. He has also shown me, with faith He can change my thinking, and behavior. But now what? What do I do? Im not sure that I even want to change. There has to be a reason for me being here. I guess Im waiting on God. I honestly believe I cant do a thing without Him willing it, or putting the desire in me to do whatever.  I mean I read alot of people saying you gotta do this and that, and I think to myself easy for them to say. I dont know as much as some of you when it comes to Scriptures and maybe I dont wanna know as much as some of you right now. All I know is Ray teaches the Truth that God has shown him. Im not sure if I can even trust any of you to help me considering the way you all treat each other sometimes. But never the less it is all Gods will. I guess God  is the only One that can help me, and Im not sure if He is right now. I honestly dont know whats going on, except Im here for a reason. Why are you all here anyway? Yeah I know be with like minded people, but what else?  I assure you I dont feel like minded with you. Im so lost.

 

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: jakfr0s on July 15, 2008, 04:40:16 PM ---
  I guess Im waiting on God. I honestly believe I cant do a thing without Him willing it, or putting the desire in me to do whatever. 


--- End quote ---

Hi jak,

That simple quote above actually puts you miles ahead of many Christians who have attended church for their entire life believing since they chose Christ by saying a 30 second prayer they are "saved." I am not presumptuous enough to explain or act as if I know what God's plan for you is in the here and now, only that whatever circumstances you are presently in or find yourself in at some future point are to be used by Him to create a one of a kind Son, He sets us all in unique situations so He can create unique Sons and Daughters, no two exactly the same.

Here is an email to Ray from someone who felt very similar to what you are presently feeling.

Why Are We Here?

Dear Ray:

I truly wish that I understood why we are here on this planet. I feel like I'm in the middle of two very upset and powerful beings of some kind.  I feel like God and Satan have a terrible disagreement between them, and, somehow we as humans are in the middle of their battle. I feel awful being here on this earth and in the middle of these two and their anger/battle.

I know that God wants us to love him and denounce Satan. I am told that we are to worship God. I am told that God is a loving God. I see a lot that is good on this earth just as much as I see a lot of bad on this earth.  I feel it is unfair for us to pay for Adam and Eve's sin.

I am angry at God and at Satan. I do not feel driven to worship God and to give him praise at this moment of my life. The only way that I can become close to this creator is if someone could please explain and help me to seriously understand why we are here?

It amazes me how many people think that they are answering my question, and in reality I don't receive an answer for my question.

I wish so much that I was  not created, only because I hate not understanding and never to find the answer to my question that makes sense.

I rely on my common sense and I need a common sense answer in order to enjoy my life on this earth. Of course, there are those that say that I have to accept Christ etc to receive this holy spirit (ya-da-ya-da-ya-da) in order to receive the light of understanding etc... I hate it too that some people say that we will know the answer when we die as to why we are here.

Thank you for your time.

[Ray replies]

I am sorry that I don't know your name, but thank you for you interest and your email.

Christianity does not give you a straight answer because the doctrines of Christianity contradict most of the truths of God's Word.

There are answers, however.

I will give you some of the reason "why we are here."

A great and wise creator GOD PUT US HERE. He started the human family.

God is not stupid, He had a grand and eternal purpose in mind for making mankind.

God has many attributes, powers, knowledge, etc., that obviously mankind DOES NOT. But, God DOES WANT us to have those same attributes, especially LOVE!

Qualities of character such as Love are not instantaneously created, they must be developed. That development takes a creation, circumstances, and time. And so, God creates all these things necessary for their development.

Although God is GOOD, He nonetheless has a knowledge and understanding of both good AND EVIL. And so we TOO much come to an understanding of both good and evil. Why? Because ALL KNOWLEDGE hinges on their proper understanding.

People say things without ever realizing how stupid or impossible their thoughts or statements are. Most Christians suppose that if Adam and Eve had not sinned, then we all would STILL, right now, be enjoying the beautiful life of happiness and bliss in a fabulous garden of Eden. NOT SO!!! Adam and Eve did  NOT appreciate what they had with God in the garden before they sinned. They had NO CONTRAST to compare it with.

Now here is a key piece of understanding and wisdom. God wants CHILDREN. God is building a FAMILY. Children are to grow up and have the attributes of their parents. But these things must be LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE!  Not only didn't Adam and Eve appreciate what they had, they ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT have appreciated what they had, because they experienced ONLY GOOD.

Try to come up with even ONE VIRTUE, such as love, patience, honesty, goodness, faithfulness, loyalty, obedience, bravery, etc., etc., etc., ANYTHING of a virtuous nature, that does not involve the overcoming of SOME FORM OF EVIL! There is you answer! There IS NO VIRTUE, NO CHARACTER, NO STABILITY of any kind in any one, except he overcomes some form of EVIL.

Now can you see why we are here? Now can you see why there is not only good, but so much evil in the world? It is necessary! God did not put it here simply to make us miserable! God is NOT in a battle for supremacy with Satan. God CREATED Satan. God USES Satan. And Satan too, will be saved after he has done all of his dirty work. God will make him repent.

God is enlarging His family into BILLIONS of sons and daughters.  This life is part of the training ground to be the very SONS OF GOD.

All evil including DEATH itself will be abolished when God has used them to bring His family to a level of love and righteousness that He desires. We will then inherit all that God has and all that God is. God is truly OUR FATHER.

I hope that helps your understanding a little better. Life will not always be miserable and painful as it may seem to you now. This too shall pass.

Sincerely,

Ray

http://bible-truths.com/email2.htm#why

Peace,

Joe

winner08:
Man what a trip. My grandmother passing away is what started me on my quest 20 something yrs. ago. Twenty yrs latter I'm just finding out the truth. When I first started reading Ray's teachings a few months ago I was very angry with God because I didn't understand the truth. There are still alot of things I don't understand of God and that's is God's will for me. When He is ready He will show me and you. But not until then. I wrote Ray an email once explaining the way I feel. (Hypocrite) that's me. I feel I praised and loved God with my lips more than my heart. I just dont feel it. Even though I want to so badly to feel the love in my heart I just don't think I do. That really bothers me. I don't want to repeat what Ray told me because I can't say it as well as he did. It sure helped me, it gave me something to work with. If your interested check it out.(I feel like a hypocriet). Anyways just the fact that you are asking these questions is the beginning of change. You might not see it but I'm sure others will. Sooner or later someone will say to you, (there's something different about you). You will see.



                                        Darren

KristaD:
I've been there too. It does have to be in His time and even if it feels like He's not working in you, He is. You're where you are because He isn't done. It's sometimes a slow work, sometimes it feels hopeless, but He's still there and still making changes in you. One day this will all make sense and you will look back and see Him. You may be lost but He knows exactly where you are and that is exactly where He wants you to be right now. You may not know what your purpose is but He does. You even said that you think He is working on your patience with people; it just takes a while. You will not always be that same sinner but the fact that you recognize that you are and that only He can change that proves that HE IS WORKING ON YOU :)! Prayers brother, I know how that place feels and I hope that you are out of it soon.
FWIW I don't feel of like mind with many here either, but I do believe that those here have been called and chosen and though we are all at different places right now, we are on the same path with the same destination and the same loving Father leading us.

Matthew 9
 10While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew's house, many tax collectors and "sinners" came and ate with him and his disciples. 11When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and 'sinners'?"

 12On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 13But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Romans 5
 6You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
&
 18Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

 20The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Galatians 2
 17"If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"[d]

1 Timothy 1
15Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. 17Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

rk12201960:
Hi Jak,
Welcome.
Seems to me God is teaching you how to learn,wait and apply.
Bless you on your journey with Christ.

Peace.
Randy

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