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OBrenda:
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"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolators, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

OK everytime I read this, I understand most of this, but my mind stops and asks....just exactly what does Sorcerers mean?

Are we talking about your "David Copperfield" illusionist magicians, that could deceive people with science and physics that most of the common folks didn't understand?

If so who would be representative of this today?

It's OK to Laugh if it's a Stupid Question!

Dave in Tenn:
G5333
φαρμακός
pharmakos
Total KJV Occurrences: 1
sorcerers, 1
Rev_22:15

G5332
φαρμακεύς
pharmakeus
far-mak-yoos'
From φάρμακον pharmakon (a drug, that is, spell giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: - sorcerer.

In the OT, there are a couple of words translated 'sorcerer' from the Hebrew.  It usually appears in a list with other practitioners of occult arts.

As best I can see, there is no Greek translation of the OT in the New Testatment.



Stevernator:
I've wondered if that would be applicable to modern day recreational drug users or maybe its just someone who is into some occult stuff.

jakfr0s:
  Whoa! Ive done both occult stuff and drug use. I still smoke pot sometimes, and I pray He will fix that in His good and perfect time. I wonder if the Scriptures are talking about people like me. Am I a sorcerer? I posted earlier about what has been going on in my home, and I cant help but to wonder whats going on?

  If anyone does not feel I belong here cause of this I understand, but please say so now and I will come back when He fixes me. By the way what does this mean? 1Jn 5:16 If anyone should be perceiving his brother sinning a sin not to death, he shall be requesting, and He will be giving him life for those sinning not to death. There is a sin to death: I am not saying that he should be asking concerning that.

              Your Friend, George D.

Stevernator:
Hi Obrenda!
Hmm, I don't think most people really believe that David Copperfield is using "magic" I could be wrong though.

Hi George!
I wondered about that because the Greek word is similar to drug as Dave pointed out. I also think about being under the influence of drugs is sort of like being deceived under a sorcerer's spell. I hope these scriptures give you hope.

Phillipians 4
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

 13For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

 14Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

 15That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;


1 tim 3:16
16But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.

Philippians 4:13 - "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me."

I thought the sin unto death could be idolatry because of how the chapter ends. There is also the case of Ananias lying to God in Acts 5 and subsequently dying.

Your bro in Christ,
Steve

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