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joyful1:
--- Quote from: jakfr0s on July 25, 2008, 11:32:16 PM --- If anyone does not feel I belong here cause of this I understand, but please say so now and I will come back when He fixes me. By the way what does this mean? 1Jn 5:16 If anyone should be perceiving his brother sinning a sin not to death, he shall be requesting, and He will be giving him life for those sinning not to death. There is a sin to death: I am not saying that he should be asking concerning that.
Your Friend, George D.
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George,
Part of the reason that I kept reading Ray's articles was that he addressed the fact that Jesus came to save the LOST; those of us, who realised that we'd pretty much messed up everything in our lives and comitted "the worset of sins!" Don't be so foolish in thinking that you've made the worse mistakes or struggle with something that cannot be compared to what every one of us here is struggling against....its all sin! And God's got it ALL covered. Check out Ray's article about the Church that Jesus is building : The Lake of Fire - Part VIII WHERE IS THE CHURCH THAT JESUS BUILT? http://bible-truths.com/lake8.html
here is an excerpt:
THE "CALLED" AND THE "NOT CALLED"
"For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many [some, but not many] wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
But God has chosen the foolish things [many translations do not insert the word "things" in these verses] of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And the base things of the world, and things which are despised, has God chosen, yes, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in His presence" (I Cor. 1:26-29).
So we see that God calls MOSTLY those who are: weak, base, despised, nothings! Are we to believe that God is going to build a SPIRITUAL ARMY of Sons and Daughters by which He will conquer and SAVE THE WORLD?
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I think we can all agree that there is a great deal of work to be done with and to these "nothings of the world" whom God is calling to such a formidable, once-in-an-eternity task!
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Have a great day!
Joyce :)
jakfr0s:
I guess I was hurt and feeling very ashamed and guilty. I knew without a doubt that all of you here is struggling with sins of all kinds, and no one sin is worse than another right? Its just that Judgement hurts and my first reaction was to pity myself. I'm not saying any of you were judging me but that He was, maybe through you all, and I know Judgment is a good thing. Maybe I'm wrong about that, I don't know. Please forgive me, Ive learned something here the hard way.
Your Friend, George D.
Kat:
Hi Brenda,
I think we can learn a lot about what a 'sorcerer' is from this description in Deuteronomy. I think this passage covers all that may be implyed throught out the Bible by any type of 'magic' arts.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
v. 11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
v. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before you. (NKJV)
Here is Rotherham which has a bit of a variation in the wording to give a little more understanding.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found in thy midst—One who causeth his son or his daughter to pass through fire,—Or who useth divination, hidden arts or enchantments Or who muttereth incantations;
v. 11 Or who bindeth with spells,—Or who asketh of a familiar spirit or an oracle, Or who seeketh unto the dead.
v. 12 For, an abomination unto Yahweh, is everyone who doeth these things,—and on account of these abominations, is Yahweh thy God dispossessing them from before thee. (Rotherham)
To me this shows pretty clearly in this passage what type of practices of which "these things are an abomination to the LORD" and must be purged in the Lake of Fire.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
p.s. George, I think we all here have done things in the pass that we were ashamed of. We can not continue to allow these pass evil experiences to weight us down, but move forward into the light.
1Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
jakfr0s:
Sorry Brenda, I did not mean to take from your post. That was rude of me and I humbly apologize.
Your Friend, George D.
OBrenda:
George....You are more important than the definition of Sorcery! :)
You are in the right place,...What Joyce shared with you is very powerful!
Kat, thanks for always being such a blessing with Gods Word.
Steve...I certainly hope people understand David Copperfield isn't real magic!
I think that before I understood that Satan was created by God, I understood these things spoken of in Deuteronomy as the "Powers that Satan Possessed",...that he was using to usurped the Throne of God. Perhaps the Sin in these things, is believing and participating in the Deception that God is not Sovereign?
Well if the word "Sorcery" can also be defined as taking drugs, I can strike that sin off the short list of sins I haven't committed...oh well...Thanks Dave ;D ;)
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