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What is going on in my house?
G. Driggs:
I hope no one minds me "resurrecting" this old topic, but I really want to know what you all think about some possibilities concerning why it is my family thinks they are seeing spirits. Im not saying what Im about to present to you is the answer, because I really just dont know.
I have heard Ray talk about how God makes things out of things that are invisible. You would think I would remember which paper he said that in, but I dont. Here is one of the Scriptures that brother Ray provided I believe:
Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Second witness possibly?
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Third witness maybe?
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Ok, (deep breath) I distinctly remember Ray saying something like God creates things from things we cannot see, like mixing hydrogen (invisible gas) with oxygen (invisible gas?) to create water, which we can all see. Obviously He created hydrogen and oxygen from nothing right? With all this in mind, and considering "all things are possible" with God (Mat 19:26) (Mar 9:23) (Mar 10:27), is it possible that God can cause us to see spirits? Not just spirits, but also His Word, which is "spirit and life"? Combining 2 or more Scriptures causes those that believe to "see and hear" the invisible (His Word)? I know that is alot of questions, but I genuinely want to know, considering the circumstances The Lord has put me and my family in. So I guess the real question is, is it possible (ALL things are possible with God) that He can anytime He wants, cause us to see and hear spirit beings? Please consider when many saw Jesus after His resurrection, before and after His ascension to The Father. I use to think, "how the heck?". What did He do, "mix" 2 or more of something to Make Jesus appear? I honestly do not know, which is why I ask here. Please understand I believe its very hard to understand the Lord, and all His ways, so I may never know, and that is fine. Please understand this does not even ask the question WHY we see and hear what we do in our home, and I dont even want to go there yet. I will at least say I have an idea as to why, but I would be leaning on my own understanding, and making assumptions which I know will not work.
Any and all input is welcome, especially Scriptures, or where Ray might have talked about this.
It all comes down to the fact, ALL is of God, and maybe I dont need to know at this time.
I also would like to ask for prayers, peace and safety mainly, because honestly Im still a little scared. Most importantly that His will be done, thanx.
Peace & Love, G.Driggs
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: Jacobs Ladder on June 04, 2009, 05:31:49 PM ---Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I have my own experiences of seeing 'things" that I was JUST writing prior to my post about the Elect. How interesting (as in good) that you would post your question as well.
-Jacobb
--- End quote ---
Im not sure Im using the quote function correctly, but here goes.
I had forgotten about that quote you gave from Scriptures (Ephesians 6:12), thank you, it helps.
I know what you mean when you say "How interesting (as in good) that you would post your question as well." Just in the last year I have been coming here and reading, I have noticed this "phenomenon", for lack of a better word (forgive me) many times. Why just before rejoining the forum there was a post about someone who said "they had figured it all out" and I was honestly gonna include that (in length) in my introductory post, but it seems someone had already covered it, and pretty much described me last year when I first joined. Oh the arrogance of my carnality (beast within)!
Thanks again Jacobs Ladder
Peace, G.Driggs
G. Driggs:
I think I just realized I've been looking for a sign that would confirm I was one of The Elect. I have read and heard so many times we never know for sure, but in my blindness I thought there might be some way to know for sure. I guess I desperately want that prize, the crown of life, before the rest of the world. Seems crazy now to think that I believed if I were to know for sure spirits are messing with us that would somehow confirm, and ensure my Election. Its true spirits do mess with us, but I shouldnt think Im special just because they do. Fact is I dont know if my family is messing with me or not. Does not matter now, I think I understand. This topic is dead to me, I will try to move on.
This is me:
Luk 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation: they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
Mat 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
Thank you all for your silence, seems strange how you all made me think and pray without saying a word, all the glory is His.
Peace & Love, G.Driggs
daywalker:
Hello George,
Indeed there are many strange things in this world, which are hard to comprehend and/or understand. I, too, played with a ouija board a few times when I was a young teen. They are no joke! I stay far away from one whenever I see one.
As for the strange noises you are hearing. I am not sure exactly what you are hearing, but it could very well be some normal things around the house [old rusty pipes, leaky faucets, etc]. You say you recently moved into your new home; I would do some investigating around the house if you haven't done so already. If you aren't that familiar with this kind of stuff, then maybe have a plummer and/or electrician come over and do some investigating.
Not saying this is the noises you are hearing, just trying to provide some possible 'natural' causes. As for your child seeing things, these could 'possibly' be a natural causes as well. High EMF [electromagnetic field] readings can cause this, as well as various other symptoms as nausea, fatigue, hallucinations, weakness, sick stomach, feelings of distress, etc, etc. Again, not saying this is the answer, just trying to give you some alternative ideas to ponder over.
Yes, demons are very real, and the possibility of them haunting us is also real. But I would look for more natural causes first.
Anyways, God Bless You and Your Family. I will keep you in my prayers.
- Daywalker. 8)
Dave in Tenn:
Hey George. Just asking the question is the first step to finding the answer.
As for being one of the elect...look for me if you are there...I'll be the one with the most stunned look on my face for being there. ;D
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