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Daniel:
Thank you Chrissiela for yyour help, you gave me so much you look at :D  I found this interesting too, which answers my first question.


Rev1:1 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send [it] unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.  (the rest of the bunch) :D

Then these

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand[/u], and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.


1Titus 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;[/b]

Does not the above scriptures remind you somewhat of this verse?


Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Stars are angels in the "hand" of a mediator? Sounds very close to the Lord in whose hand were seven stars defined as angels in His hand, Him being the mediator of a new covenant.

Any other thoughts?

Daniel

Daniel:

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--- Quote from: Daniel ---Thank you very much for helping me Chrissiela, what are you seeing in the "after this" section of your post please do share if you can  :D
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HA! I wish I could!!  :lol:  :lol:

Not really sure.... just popped out at me that Christ had twelve disciples and Paul found twelve disciples in Ephesus (One of the seven churches mentioned in Asia... this one being the most prominent in the scriptures, outside of the book of Revelation).

Act 19:1  And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

Act 19:2  He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

Act 19:3  And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

Act 19:4  Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Act 19:5  When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Act 19:6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Act 19:7  And all the men were about TWELVE.

Act 19:8  And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

Act 19:9  But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but spake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and separated the disciples, disputing daily in the school of one Tyrannus.

Act 19:10  And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both Jews and Greeks.[/list:u]

Seems that Paul separated himself and these disciples and for the space of 2 years taught in the school of Tyrannus.... resulting in the gospel being preached to ALL (both Jew and Greek) in Asia.

Just thought it was interesting...  :D  

Chrissie
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Chrissiela,

This is facinating! Thank you, you have been a great help to me. God bless you for the time you have taken to look into these things for me :D

Daniel

ertsky:
i was reading a bit and saw these verses

Act 19:26 and you are beholding and hearing that, not only of Ephesus, but of almost the entire province of Asia, this Paul by his persuading causes a considerable throng to stand aloof, saying that they are not gods which are coming into being by means of hands."
Act 19:27 Now, not only is this endangering our party, by it coming to be confuted, but the sanctuary of the great goddess Artemis also is being thereby reckoned nothing. Besides, her magnificence is about to be pulled down also, whom the whole province of Asia and the inhabited earth is revering."
Act 19:28 Now, hearing this and becoming full of fury, they cried, saying, "Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!"


theres certainly a lot more to the word Asia in scripture than i thought

but then that's true of everything :)

also fantastic that God will completely destroy the temple of Artemis that is in me

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worm:

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Can I ask you ertsky, or someone else here, why that which was written to the seven churches in Asia only? I might be a new learner here but I that struck me, why Asia? Was every church in Asia only?
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very interesting questions indeed Daniel...

why did Jesus equate the churches established by Paul as being "Babylon"?
he did not do this with the church of Jerusalem (to take one example) established by Peter and James...is Jesus trying to tell us something more?

Jesus also instructed ALL apostles to go and teach the Gospel to "the lost sheep of Israel"...from history we know that after the Assyrians captured Israel (10 tribes of the north)...they settled between the Black and Caspian seas and later on trekked into Asia and Europe...

Paul decided that if the Jews don't listen he'll tell it to the Gentiles...are these Gentiles "the lost sheep of Israel" or not?
Did Paul dissobey the instruction of Jesus or not?

mmm...what do you guys think?

hillsbororiver:
Do not forget the Spiritual implications, His words are spirit;

Joh 6:63  It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life.

From Lake of Fire Part 7

 THE 7 CHURCHES ARE GOD’S CHURCHES

Make no mistake, the seven churches in Revelation 2 and 3 are the churches of the Living God! They are not pagan churches, neither are they Satan’s churches, but they are GOD’S churches!  It is none other than Jesus Christ Himself Who

"...walks in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks [which are the seven churches]" (Rev. 2:1).

"He that has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit [of GOD] says unto the churches" (Rev. 1:7, 11, 17, 29, 2:6, 13, 22).

We must understand what the Spirit says, which Christ interprets to mean having an ear (an spiritual ear) that can understand. This is not some game of Dungeons and Dragons. This is real life. This is the way God has designed it. God has shrouded the mysteries of life in parables and metaphors and symbols.

When Adam and Eve could lazily pick their fruit and food with little effort, they had little appreciation for them. God wants us to desire His way above life itself. He wants us to sell all that we have so that we can purchase the pearl of great price. He wants us to buy a field that has hidden treasure in it. God wants us to use our body, mind, and spirit—everything we have, to acquire the HIGH CALLING.

Paul said, forgetting the things that are past, he pressed onward and upward. I am not trying to sound melodramatic, but that’s just the way it is. We really do wrestle with "spiritual forces of wickedness" (Eph. 6:12).



http://bible-truths.com/lake7.html

Joe

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