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Brian:
Thanks Kat,
I'll try to keep that in mind. How about "Wiki" sources?
Kat:
Hi Brian,
Well Wiki just makes info available as far as is known to be facts. Facts are helpful. It's the sources that teach their theology and doctrines. We don't need to try and sort out other's theories, we're trying to learn what is taught at BT.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
hillsbororiver:
From The Lake of Fire Installment XVI—HELL: Part C
THE ORIGIN OF ENDLESS PUNISHMENT
EGYPT—THE GRANDSON OF NOAH
The Scriptural origin of Egypt is extremely easy to trace, though don’t expect many in the secular world to agree with this:
"The sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth" (Gen. 10:1).
"And the sons of Ham, Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan" (Gen. 10:6).
STRONG’S HEBREW DICTIONARY:
"H4714 Dual of H4693; Mitsrajim, that is, Upper and Lower Egypt: - Egypt, Egyptians, Mizraim."
There it is: "Mizraim," Noah’s grandson through his son Ham is EGYPT.
Egypt is mentioned from Genesis to Revelation--558 times (more than any other nation excepting Israel). This statistic alone should speak volumes to us regarding the importance of Egypt in God’s plan for humankind. It behooves us to learn more about the nation of Egypt, its history, its culture, and its religion. It has everything to do with understanding the many unscriptural doctrines of the Christian Church.
http://bible-truths.com/lake16-C.html
Sozo:
I agree. In order to speak with others, we must know the source of where their pagan ideas come from. Therefore, we need to study these things. As you can see in some of the previous posts, Ray spends a good bit of time studying these things.
One of the more recent studies that I did was on Ray's paper "The Lucifer Hoax." In studying this, I learned a lot about the origin of the word, the origin of the belief in the fall of Lucifer, etc. I learned about Zoroastrianism and other popular religions and idea's prevalent around 500 BC. In fact, I can easily defend my position against any scholar on this topic now.
Here is an interesting fact: Scholars say that "Lucifer, son of the dawn" was translated from "Heylel ben Shachar". Shachar was considered the god of the dawn in Zoroastrian mythology. Then they go on to say that according to Isaiah 14:12, that Heylel was Shachar's son and tried to exalt himself above the gods, but was cast down. So then, where is this idea found in Zoroatrianism or the Ugaritic text that references the fall of Heylel, son of Shachar? Where is the name "Heylel" found in the Ugaritic text (Zoroastrianism). Get this....it doesn't exist! Scholars use our Holy Scriptures to support a pagan myth! Heylel should have been translated as "yalal" which means to "howl". The proper name "Heylel" was invented through the error of mistranslating one letter..."ell" instead of the correct "eill". It's amazing just how much scholars don't know! I just thought you guys might find that interesting. :)
So yes, we need to study these things so that we can have an answer for others.
Heidi:
Ecclesiastes 1:12-18 "v13, I devoted myself to much study and to explore by wisdom all that is done under heaven.....v18, for with much wisdom comes much sorrow, that more knowledge the more grief."
I take note of all that has been said in this post....I do however strongly belief in my heart that we need to devote ourselves in that Word of God and what we learn here in BT. How many hours can be wasted trying to understand Babylon when we could have spent time with God....so I think there is much wisdom in what both David and Kat had to say.
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