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a final say on ron weinland 2008 false prophet
AK4:
hi everyone,
I know this topic was brought up about a month and half ago, but i wanted everyone here and anyone else who wonders about Ron Weinland to consider this...
a little background first...
before coming to the Truth and finding God working through Ray to bring out the Truth of His word, i was thoroughly deceived by Ron W. and his "endtime apostle/Elijah" Herbert W. Armstrong. I read EVERYTHING they both wrote and thought it was true. I listened to RW every Sabbath and all the other stuff he was teaching. After i had read everything I begged God for more knowledge of Him. It went dry for about a week, Until one day RW said on a radio show...
" I follow the teachings of Gods' endtime apostle/Elijah, HWA." --- paraphrased. That stuck with me.
So i started really questioning (i questioned before but apparently not good enough at that time) HWA's teachings. So i did some research on HW and read all his predictions/prophesies and found out None came true i.e. Jesus is returning in 1975.
God kept saying to me this scripture Matt. 7:20-- you shall know them by their fruits.
I got to thinking if HWA was making false predictions, he's a fake and so is his teachings so therefore RW is a fake too because....
" I follow the teachings of Gods' endtime apostle/Elijah, HWA." --- RW paraphrased.
I got into it with some of his followers telling them that they should be careful following RW because of what Matt. 7:20 says and if HWA made false predictions and RW says he strongly follows him and believe that HWA is the endtime apostle then that would make RW a fake too. Oh i caught hell for that statement.
This was their argument---"HWA was an apostle, not a prophet so that's why his predictions were wrong. Apostles didn't prophesy."----Laughable ain't it!!! Okay then what about Paul huh.
So anyway that was proof enough for me about RW but i listened to him again because he said the " great tribulation" was going to start April 17 of this year. April 17 he preached saying nothing special is going to happen this day but "mark my word, within 90 days at least one of Americas major cities will be terrorised by a nuclear attack from terrorists, Chicago, LA, New York City".
I thought okay, I'll give him 3 months while keeping in mind the whole time what God said about false prophets--- "if a prophet prophecies and it don't come to pass then you don't have to worry about him" (paraphrased. i couldn't find the scripture on esword I'm still green with it)
Well to end this long post (I'm sorry everyone) its now July 31 more than 90 days and nothing came to pass as his books and his radio appearances stated.
So he is a fake, a phony along with his endtime apostle/Elijah, HWA. They have some truths but they are stuck on the Old Testament and all its physical rituals and rules...And all the other "churches of God" with a slightly different name to them.
hopefully this may help anyone coming out of that Mystery Babylon
God bless you all through Jesus,
Anthony
musicman:
Please define nuclear attack!!
Maybe somebody farted really badly in an elevator in one of those cities. Who are we to judge RW. It's all in the interpretation. Once I was told that a beast would rise out of the sea on such and such a day. Well, as it turned out, my boss had gone swimming that day. We just can't know enough to write this man off yet.
winner08:
Wrong musicman, I can write this false prophet off. We all can. If you want to believe in him go ahead that's you right. Just a question. How many times does a prophet of have to be wrong before he's considered a false prophet. How many times does a prophet of God have to be right in order to be a true prophet of God. (Once). You will know by their fruit they are of God.(paraphrasing)
Darren
Dave in Tenn:
Hey. I'm sorry you spend 90 days 'giving this guy a chance'. Ray could have told you in 9 seconds that it was all hogwash. But if that's what it took to convince you, then give God the glory.
Besides, Jesus wasn't supposed to return in 1975, he was supposed to return in 1988, forty years after the formation of the nation of Israel. Anybody who believed that 1975 nonsense was an idiot.
When did Jim Jones prophecy the end? What about that guy who got all those gen-Xers to commit suicide so they could ride the Holy hovercraft into the Kingdom? What does Hal Lindsey have to say? Van Impe? Why don't these guys just retire when they are wrong...not enough money?
If these were Old Testament prophets, they'd be stoned to death. These days folks just bury them with money. Give me that old time religion. ;D
winner08:
Dave in Tenn. In my opinion these false prophets are very dangerous. One man, Jim Jones was responsible for over 900 deaths. These people are not to be taken lightly. They are murders. David Kerash. How many was He responsible far? Why did He need all those weapons and ammo if not to fight a war. If He was God he could have spoke a word and it would have been over. Anyway I don't want to go on a rant so I'll end it here.
Thanks,
Darren
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