> Introductions, Announcements, and More of Ray's Teachings
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			Dave in Tenn:
			
			Hye Jeff.  I really identify with what you've said there.  I'm way behind you, but it is sort of congealing for me as well.  
That audio you referred to was great, wasn't it?  I'd never heard nor ever imagined something so beautiful as the Adam and Eve thing.  I don't have a wife, but it made me want to rush out and hug somebody else's wife.   ;)
Welcome back.  Post as you're moved to.  
		
			JeffH:
			
			
--- Quote from: Dave in Tenn on August 06, 2008, 06:31:36 PM ---That audio you referred to was great, wasn't it?  I'd never heard nor ever imagined something so beautiful as the Adam and Eve thing.  I don't have a wife, but it made me want to rush out and hug somebody else's wife.   ;)
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Yes!  How many times have we read the Genesis story, 20, 100, 1000 times?  I never once picked up on that.  It's things like that, that have deepened my conviction.  Before, I was always confused about what this or that meant.  It's like Jesus said and Ray wrote about, once you understand one parable, you understand them all and I've found even more.  I've always known Adam was the "first" but I never saw his sacrifice and what it would mean for the rest of humanity.  How much more is there to be revealed?!!!  Much I would think.
I think once any of us - anyone - has read and understood just some of the things God is revealing through Ray, you're there.  I'm constantly searching for things on bt.com, referring back as I try to understand.  It's not only good teaching, it's becoming an excellent resource.
If Jesus doesn't come back soon, I suspect Ray is going to need a more sophisticated website.  :D
		
			Roy Monis:
			
			Hi! JeffH you oldie
Now you're talking, brother, and here's you're quote; "There's really nothing to contribute from an intellectual perspective.  It's my heart that was aching for fellowship, but I didn't recognize it until recently." 
It is not your intellectual perspective that I am either interested in or desire to hear about any more than it is my intellectual perspective that you or anyone else on this board are interested in or want to hear about. It is what comes from the heart that is the important ingredient that either edifies or destroys your brother or sister. The tongue like the pen is a fire and needs to be kept under strict control. "So also the tongue is a small part of the body, and yet it boasts of great things. See how great a forest is set aflame by such a small fire! And the tongue is a fire, the very world of iniquity; the tongue is set among our members as that which defiles the entire body, and sets on fire the course of our life, and is set on fire by hell."  (Jas.3:5-6).
This can only be done by the heart. We all have first hand experience of what destructive power the mind of man (intellect/theology) has and the havoc it has created in the spiritual lives of millions. We have done with that, we don't need any part of it anymore, we have by the grace of God come out of it. Let us keep it out and keep a close watch on it here. "Hear me all of you, and understand: there is nothing from without the man, that going into him can defile him; but the things which proceed out of the man are those that defile the man. If any man hath ears to hear, let him hear."  (Jn.7:14-16
I have been with Ray for a mere six to eight months now, but from what he at 67 has taught me at 87 is beyond belief. All the knowledge of our God which I collected over those long years I now consider as dung compared to what I have learned over the past six or so months. I am deeply indebted to my God for directing me in the direction of bible-truths.
So let us have the input from your heart, brother, as you will have mine as we walk all together in the Spirit of Christ Jesus. Amen!
God bless you brother in our joint walk in Christ.  
 ;)               ::)                 :-*Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK     
		
			JeffH:
			
			
--- Quote from: Roy Monis UK on August 07, 2008, 09:58:57 AM ---Now you're talking, brother, and here's you're quote; "There's really nothing to contribute from an intellectual perspective.  It's my heart that was aching for fellowship, but I didn't recognize it until recently." 
It is not your intellectual perspective that I am either interested in or desire to hear about any more than it is my intellectual perspective that you or anyone else on this board are interested in or want to hear about. 
So let us have the input from your heart, brother, as you will have mine as we walk all together in the Spirit of Christ Jesus. Amen!
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Hi Roy,  
I misspoke when I used the word "intellectual".  The word I should have used was "knowledge".  You all here have all of the knowledge (are growing in it as I am) - but - you also have the heart to go with it.  I can't contribute anything more than you already know and what I realized is that I can learn about love here, because it's on every page I visit.  I have the knowledge, but not the heart to go with it.  I'm a babe when it comes to matters of the heart and when the contrast between how you love, and how much it's lacking in my own life became glaring, I knew that I was here to learn.   :)
Jeff
		
			Dave in Tenn:
			
			Hi Jeff.  If it's emotional love, I think there's a physaical thing in aging (especially in men) that tends to diminish the strength of emotion.  Since I can't grow my hair back or turn it back to brown without surgery or fakery, it makes sense that I can't expect to 'feel' as passionately as I did when I was younger.  If I'd had this truth in my early twenties, though, I am certain I would have cut off a lot of peoples ears instead of just a few.  :D
Anyway...you know I Cor. 13 better than me.  There ain't anything in there we aren't allowed to pray for.  I hope 'we' don't disappoint.  Love to ya.
		
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