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Simon Magus and Simon Peter?
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: winner08 on August 11, 2008, 11:57:58 PM ---WOW Matt!!, I just was speaking of Simon Magus two days ago with a friend of mine. I read about Simon Magus on the net. Simon Magus was a magician and a follower of one of the disciples. I think, but not sure it was Simon Peter.Anyhow, Magus was very envious of the disciple and wanted to be like him. He couldn't perform miracles and so he did what he had to do in order to get a following, he did his magic tricks and trick the people into believing he was doing miracles like the other disciples. Well people started to follow him and started to believe in him. that started to believe he was sent from God. That's how a new religion started. The rest is history as they say.
Thanks Darren
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Hi! Darren
Here is the Scripture you're looking for; "Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit. Now when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay my hands, he may receive the Holy Spirit. But Peter said unto him, Thy silver perish with thee, because thou hast thought to obtain the gift of God with money. Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right before God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray the Lord, if perhaps the thought of thy heart shall be forgiven thee. For I see that thou art in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity. And Simon answered and said, Pray ye for me to the Lord, that none of the things which ye have spoken come upon me."(Acts 8:17-24).
Simon the magician also believed and was baptized; "And Simon also himself believed: and being baptized, he continued with Philip; and beholding signs and great miracles wrought, he was amazed."
(Acts 8:13). But nowhere do I see that he started a new religion, I think that is pure human conjecture.
God bless you brother in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
Matt:
Thanks for the comments folks :)
I have always been interested in that fuzzy period between the disciples ministry and the beginning of Catholicism. For me, knowing about this makes it easy to point out to others how much the rest of Christianity is like the Catholic church.
This appears to be the period when much of God's truth was lost.
Now, at least I understand that He made it this way. It wasn't something that we did to thwart His plan.
Matt
AK4:
Hi all,
I believe I read something that Ray wrote about Simon Magus. I believe it was in an email to someone, but I remember him saying something like it wasn't Magus who was crucified upside down in Rome that is was Peter. This was contrary to alot of stuff i read on Magus. It was a small matter so its not a big deal if Ray was right or not on that. Also i vaguely remember someone was saying that this....
--- Quote ---But Peter said unto him, Thy silver perish with thee, because thou hast thought to obtain the gift of God with money. Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right before God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray the Lord, if perhaps the thought of thy heart shall be forgiven thee. For I see that thou art in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity
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was somehow a prophecy concerning the church or Catholicism. I dont know i vaguely remember.
Anyways,
Anthony
winner08:
Yes Roy, I don't remember where I read that information at. It could as well just been more man made teachings. It wasn't in the Bible. It was on the net.
Darren
Kat:
Hi Matt,
I thought this was interesting that I found in Wikipedia about Simon Magus.
The ancient oratory on which the current church is built was located by Pope Paul I on the place in which Simon Magus died. According to this legend, Simon Magus wanted to prove his powers as stronger than those of the apostles, and started levitating in front of Saints Peter and Paul. The two apostles fell on their knees preaching, and Simon fell, dying. The basalt stones where the apostles were kept the imprints of their knees, and are embedded in the wall of the south transept.
The church of Santa Francesca Romana claims to have been built on the spot in question (thus claiming that Simon Magus could indeed fly).
The church was built in the second half of the tenth century; it was named Santa Maria Nova ("new St. Mary"), to distinguish it from the other Roman Forum church devoted to St. Mary, Santa Maria Antiqua ("ancient St. Mary").
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Francesca_Romana
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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