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John 1:1-5
Snowfire:
If it had not been for the “of whom are all things” Christ would have died and never been resurrected. He would have ceased to exist.
For the same reason I don’t think Christ could have “emptied himself” had there not been an “of whom are all things” to bring him (Christ) into existence again as the Son of the Father.
OBrenda:
Heidi
Just had to let you know that your post added greatly to my struggle through this thread. I'm trying to organize what I've learned from everybody here. And I want to throw out whats clanging in my head to see if I'm missing the forrest for the trees...?
(Lets remember that Ray has enlightened us from the scriptures that God is also Female)
As a earthly mother, I understand to give birth, is to push out of myself, something that was created inside of me, a child/being very similar to myself [with some help from the father] ;)
Now Christ is a mirror reflection of the Father, [DNA from only one parent] think along the lines of Cloning, which takes the DNA from one living creature, and creates a identical. We now understand through science, that this is possible to do in the physical.
Is it possible, that prior to the creation of the universe God created Christ from exactly himself/DNA that was separate and at the same time everything that God was? Two but One?
God created Adam, and out of Adam God took something? and created Eve!
She was created out of exactly the same stuff/DNA as Adam. Two but One?
Be it Spiritual or earthly through these Two but One, comes several million kazillion as the sands of the seas...decedents?
Father God, through Jesus God.......creates everyhing........
They create man, and together through the female.....create many nations
And when Father God placed the Divine/DNA exact mirror of himself/Jesus in Mary.
The Word/God/Creator became Flesh and dwelt among us.
When we worship Christ, are we worshiping the creation, or the creator?
My Guess here would be it depends on the understanding of the Depths of who Jesus is?
What say you?
???
Brenda
winner08:
I know this is simple minded but who were we told by Jesus to worship?
Darren
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: winner08 on August 23, 2008, 04:49:57 AM ---I know this is simple minded but who were we told by Jesus to worship?
Darren
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Hi! Darren
We worship the Father in Spirit and the Father only, He is a jealous God, “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me," (Ex.20:5). But we pray to Him in the name of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. That's in my opinion.
God bless you brother in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
Heidi:
--- Quote from: Roy Monis UK on August 23, 2008, 05:15:56 AM ---We worship the Father in Spirit and the Father only, He is a jealous God, “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me," (Ex.20:5). But we pray to Him in the name of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
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Jesus was God in the old testament, when praying to God the Father we ask Him that His will be done.....in the name of Jesus.
Brenda, like you I also think along those lines. Jesus was the only begotten Son.....because no one else have been begotten of God that way. ;D
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