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Gods laws of health and nutrition - where in Scipture?
musicman:
I agree that Ray is making the best choice available to him. The Chemo should be tried when it can lead to a normal life. The injections Ray spoke of would only prolong his life a few painful years. Ray did not pull the name, Dr. Steger, out of a hat. He did much research and was lucky that a successful holistic medicine man lives near him.
Now, about Steger's comment:
We are making a big deal over something that doesn't need to have an exact scriptural reference (who knows, maybe there is). The scriptures talk about sin and as Ray points out, a sin is falling short of the mark, or a mistake. I have no idea what Ray's diet consisted of but I am certain that there are 90 year olds that probably ate way more unhealthy. Our genetics are predetermined by God. Now, just because there might be 90 year olds that treated their bodies like garbage disposals, does not mean that they were not sinning with their habbits. It is a mistake to eat unhealthy. Therefore, every unhealthy meal consumed, has got to be considered a sin. Sometimes we pay for our sins with acid reflux. Sometimes, our indulgences lead to diabetes. Sometimes, cancer is the result of diet or smoking. Even if someone fully repents of their past lusts, they may still experience tribulation. But many never experience anything from sin, and they continue doing it their entire lives. Are they winning the race?, or losing the battle?
hillsbororiver:
A very thoughtful and well reasoned post Musicman, bottom line is we do not have much control over our lifespans, of course it is prudent to live a healthy lifestyle but it will not ensure a disease free life or add one extra day to our physical life than what God has ordained.
There are lessons to be learned through these (sickness) experiences and many if not most are very unpleasant for all involved, sometimes it is good to just observe and listen (with faith and patience) as these things play out yet always remain hopeful and encouraging to others.
As far as dietary instructions go Carol mentioned the Seventh Day Adventists and their diet doctrine, they use Genesis 1:29 as the outline for what man should or should not eat, this is a vegetarian diet. Others use the dietary instructions in Deuteronomy in the preparation of meat and what is clean and unclean.
Peace,
Joe
carol v:
Linny, I sure don't want to argue with you either because I agree with you basically. I buy and eat organic as much as I can. Avoid doctors. Read labels. Take the natural way whenever possible but have never found a natural treatment to help headaches. Yes, I've been to Mercola. The last thing I tried was rubbing my head with lemon rinds and tying it with a bandana. Haha. I've tried it all. I always have hope when I hear about something new and am always refilling my prescription shortly thereafter.
We should treat our bodies as temples but it won't add another day to our lives. It might add quality to our lives however.
As I mentioned, I have had terrible experiences with the traditional route of medicine as well and think the pharmaceutical companies are greedy and deceptive corporations that have done some good in spite of themselves. But I need them.
Since finding God's truth and sovereignty, I have realized that my own headaches have served to be an ongoing trial and tribulation that probably kept me from being a raging alcoholic. I am sure they have had a purpose but I have trouble rejoicing about it some days.
Joe is right. It's good to eat healthy but it won't add a day to the span of life that God predetermined for us. But, it will make the quality of that life span better. I have thrown garbage in my temple on many occasions and paid the physical price.
Just don't get roped into those folks like the Garden of Life fellow that is making a mint selling books and supplements based on his "scripture" diet. There are a bunch of them out there.
My basic plan is to eat God's food as natural as possible. I get most agitated when someone tries to blame God's food, like eggs, for disease and then sell us some man-made substitute.
C.
Linny:
I am right there with you Carol on the people making a fortune in the nutritional area just like in the medical field as money seems to change everything once greed comes in. I don't follow any one person or put my trust in supplements. I use some supplements but I think food is the best medicine. Like I said, we went from vegan to vegetarian to balanced.
And Craig, having studied the history of disease, I don't give the medical establishment credit for the wiping out of disease any longer. Diseases run their course and God is the One who designed humans to build natural immunities and push out these killers. Vaccines were always introduced AFTER the disease had began to disappear. I've seen the charts. Polio was even re-defined to make it look like the polio vaccine worked. Like I said, and like Anthony said, question everything and question it until you get to the truth. If money is involved, question.
George Carlin said, ""The consensus reality is often intentionally misleading." I still highly recommend the paper I mentioned in another post, WHY AMERICANS WILL BELIEVE ALMOST ANYTHING. Just because it is the consensus, doesn't make it true. I apply this to every single man-made institution.
If I were in an accident, find me a doctor! If I am sick, I am the doctor.
ciy:
One of the basic themes of the bible is that the majority (many called) are wrong and the minority (few chosen) are right.
CIY
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