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Linny:
Thank you Ken! And Peggy! I am so happy you joined in the discussion. I know a lot of people healed of a lot of things but your testimony is so powerful. It is exactly why I said disease doesn't scare me anymore. I truly know how to get healed.
You are absolutely right. We do regular colon cleanses. I think it is probably a main reason why we stay so healthy now as opposed to before.
You can find little books on the importance of keeping a healthy colon at most any health food store.
Anything you can read by Dr. Norman Walker is great. He lived to like 101 and died in a skiing accident.  8)

KristaD:
Wow, Peggy that was beautiful!!! Thank you for sharing that with us. It is so wonderful to hear how going back to natural, God intended eating can change people's lives. Thank you women for speaking your minds about this even if it's not a popular opinion. I wholeheartedly agree with both of you (Linny and Peggy) about the medical profession and I am grateful to God that He has directed Ray to take a different course, whatever His will is in the end.

Triton:
Hi Ya'all,

My wife and I decided to only use olive oil instead of the other stuff when we really 'have' to fry. More expensive though.

We bought a steamer (they're cheap) and use it every day. Cooks very fast, easy to clean and keeps the good nutrients in the food instead of losing it in the water or oil. The dishes are perhaps not as tasty, but we add flavor with a wide range of healthy herbs. Especially garlic and ginger, which are known for their health benefits.

Also bought a bread maker. Again, fast (i only use the 1 hour setting), quick and easy to clean and you can change any recipe to your preferred flavor. Immediately after baking the bread, I put it in the fridge for a rapid cooling period - I've been told this helps with keeping Vitamins in the bread, not sure about that though, but no harm done if that's not true. We add herbs, raisins and nuts for extra flavor and stopped using any butter or margarine. And it makes the kitchen smell wonderful and gets my pugs going crazy when they start smelling it!

No soda at all. I've found that coffee makes me really tired. So no coffee. Green tea instead - contains caffeine, but this helps with my tiredness. As well as other herb teas. And if making tea, it's good to boil for about 10 minutes. Rooibos tea from South Africa, if available, contains high amounts of anti-oxidants that is known to be a cancer fighter.

I use organic vitamins daily. They're expensive, but much cheaper than going to the doctor! Glucosamine took the crackling sounds out of my knees within 4 weeks. Good stuff for the joints.

Lastly, if I'm not close to death, I NEVER take medicine.

carol v:
Linny -- you are right about the hormones in meat but they aren't the only source of estrogen in our kids lives. The meat-subtitute called SOY is loaded with estrogen and used extensively in schools. Probably the main source is the estrogen imitator that comes out of plastic. Every plastic bottle and plastic container leaks a substance that mimics estrogen.

Peggy -- I have done many colonics. I have eaten pure organic. I still have migraines...

And also Peggy -- my very close friend, Karen Krooskos Bowers (you can google her) was a vegetarian and nutritionist before she got breast cancer. She had a website for years dedicated to the vegetarian way of life. She was an SDA her entire life. After her diagnosis, she followed and taught classes in the raw veggie diet. She followed the Gershon Protocol which is raw vegan, colonics, juicing...hard work.

Following the raw vegan diet and Gershon protocol along with traditional medicine...the breast cancer spread to her brain and she died about 7 months after the original diagnosis.

I am very happy for you that you are cancer free. And yes, we should eat better. But frankly, we also need to be careful that we don't think our own works and virtues are responsible for what only God can do -- heal us temporarily to extend our lives for His Purpose.

God's plan was for you to be cancer free. God's plan for Karen wasn't. God's plan was for you both to try the raw veggie diet. And yes, I know she was SDA but she was the most sincere seeker of Christ I have ever known. A wise and wonderful if somewhat deceived woman.

My mother was thin, ate healthy her entire life, exercised regularly and refused to even take an aspirin. (Lucky for her, she didn't have migraines.)She sought God sincerely. Was kind and thoughtful. She died at 63.

Her sister was very fat, ate crap her entire life, never exercised, juggled prescriptions like a circus performer and was a mean liar.  She died at 76.

Eat healthy. Feel great. But don't take credit for God's Plan. AND especially, Peggy, don't blame someone with a chronic illness for their disease. I've been through that with doctors my whole life. "It's psychological." Uh-uh. Now you tell me I need a colonic. I'm very familiar with Colonix. I have done the lemonade fast which is all over the internet. Why do you assume my system has needed cleaning out for 43 years?

I'm going to start another box of Colonix soon. It's in the kitchen. It ain't gonna help my migraines though. I know that because none of the other boxes did. And the fasting with salt flushes for system cleaning didn't stop my headaches.

Triton, I do everything you do with the exception of quick cooling bread. No soda, only a few cups of green tea, organic vitamins, healthy herbs, and especially PUGS. Love PUGS!  But you obviuosly don't have a chronic condition that affects the quality of every minute of your life for forty-three years so far or you'd not be making the statement that you will never take medicine. God has blessed you.

You guys seem to be taking a bit too much credit for your own good health and blaming others for their lack of it without putting God in the equation. Let's just follow scripture and give God all the glory. Treat our bodies like temples and do the best we can. We need to make sure that our own virtuous health habits don't become an idol of our hearts and a source of pride.

I have done that and browbeat others with my opinions on the "natural" way many times. I still believe it. I still practice it. I agree with everything you have all said about both bad medicine and corporate America and how we should try to follow a healthy lifestyle. But I no longer give myself any credit or think for a second it will extend my life.

I thank God every day for the medicine He has given me to take. It is a blessing.

Carol

(haha musicman...tasty animals are best on the grill)

KristaD:
You are absolutely right Carol there is NOTHING that we can do that will alter God's will. That is a comforting thought to me :). I don't think that's an excuse (and I don't think that you are saying it is either) to live an unhealthy lifestyle and be careless with our diet and health.
I am so glad you brought up the soy, most people don't realize that soy is full of phytoestrogens that have been linked to cancer in women and lowered testosterone and sperm counts in men.
I am sorry that you are still suffering from migranes but we know that God has purpose for ALL things and I know that He has/does/will use it somehow. Not everything is fixable IMO, we can only do what we can to make our bodies the healthiest that they can be. It's kind of like when people say "well why live right if we are all saved anyway?" "why live healthy if God can kill us at any time anyway?" the simple answer to both is that you do it because you care and out of love. Love for God and respect for His holy temple which we all know is our bodies. It sounds like you have a pretty good grasp of that :).

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