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Gods laws of health and nutrition - where in Scipture?
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: musicman on August 16, 2008, 07:49:29 AM ---Actually, it might be that they slice them straight down their mid section, spilling their guts out onto the floor. I saw this in a documentary. The pigs are hanging upside down (still alive) cut down the middle, begin raisin hell and shaking.
Sick stuff!!
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Hi! Musicman & Linny
Reading your posts has made spew m guts out. I had no idea of the suffering before it arrived on my table. I wonder if Daniel's diet would be be best way out. If worked such wonders for him I'm sure it would be worth a try.
"But Daniel made up his mind that he would not defile himself with the king’s choice food or with the wine which he drank; so he sought permission from the commander of the officials that he might not defile himself. Now God granted Daniel favor and compassion in the sight of the commander of the officials......But Daniel said to the overseer whom the commander of the officials had appointed over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael and Azariah, “Please test your servants for ten days, and let us be given some vegetables to eat and water to drink.......At the end of ten days their appearance seemed better and they were fatter than all the youths who had been eating the king’s choice food. So the overseer continued to withhold their choice food and the wine they were to drink, and kept giving them vegetables. As for these four youths, God gave them knowledge and intelligence in every branch of literature and wisdom; Daniel even understood all kinds of visions and dreams." (Dan.1:5;11-12; 15-16).
But there again you can't win against greed, as water rates would go through the ceiling followed by the cost of vegetables. Starvation seems the only likely option for not having the Babylonian mark of the beast in your forehead.
Is anyone willing to keep me company?
God bless you brother and sister in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
Linny:
Not sure if you are being serious Roy but my dh and I are actually planning to go all veggies and fruits in Sept just to get cleaned out and full of energy. I think that some people can actually live healthier without meat but some of us can't. I can't so this is temporary for me. But I do think that we are responsible to treat all God's creation with mercy even if they are dumb and know no better.
Heidi, please correct me if I am wrong but it seems that you are saying that those of us who think that trying to be better to our bodies and staying away from drugs are carnal but those who spend no time learning for ourselves but spend lots of money on drugs and doctors are not carnal? I think that there are just TONS of things we need to learn and this is just one of them. If I am better able to talk and walk and think, then I am serving God to the best of my ability. My Grandmother spent her last 20 yrs with Alzheimer's and my dad spent his last 15 in a chair or in the hospital. There is a lot to be said for the quality of ones life. I think this is very important stuff.
I also think that this is the best place to talk about ALL THE WORLDLY things that we Christians need to come out of.
So for me, I don't think that learning about how our bodies work best is carnal at all. I certainly made it carnal in the early stages of my learning as food was a god to me. But God knew I'd move out of that stage. I know I am not alone in saying that everything I have learned has had God's stamp on it. His leading has been so obvious to me. What I have learned has also saved me, my family and a lot of my friends a lot of suffering. For example, two of them came to me when they didn't want to have tubes put in their baby's ears and I knew what they could do. Two children without tubes that now have cleared up miserable infections without any drugs or surgery. What a blessing! And it was so easy!
Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
This discussion is all about God and God's will if you ask me.
Please forgive me if anything I have said sounds like I take credit for anything. I simply believe that my Heavenly Father gave us all a self-healing body that if fed better can be healed. I give Him all the credit for my lack of fear. My lack of fear is because He taught me that He is the One who heals and He is the One who created the things that can heal me. But I also believe that His will surpasses my own and He is the One who chooses to heal me. And I also believe that He can heal me without my doing ANYTHING or NOT heal me even if I do.
From what Carol has said, she has tried all routes for her migraines. I don't know why God has not healed them. Just as I do not know why God allowed my Spiritual mentor to die at 61 (she was a complete healthy eater) and my dad to die at 73 who did nothing for his last 15 years but take drugs and surgeries. It does not change what God has shown me however. I know that I am healthier now than I used to be. That is all I need to know.
And Carol, we don't do soy either! Also, we did Colonix too but found another one that is supposed to be easier on your body and was rated higher than Colonix and is cheaper. Message me if you want a website to check it out.
Brenda, I just loved your post. You are so right. We don't have to agree here with everybody. We are all in different places. If you have learned something here, great. If you haven't, fine. I love everyone no matter where they happen to be. My hope is always that what I have learned might lessen someone else's suffering. If they aren't led to go that way, I don't get angry. God has us all right where He wants us to be.
I have to be ready to talk about it if I feel led to in case someone IS ready to hear it.
Believe me when I say I have kept my mouth shut a zillion times more than I have opened it. In regards to this topic and especially about BT topics! I do my best to listen to the Lord about when to speak up.
Many blessings to all...
Heidi:
Hi there Linny....yes, you did misunderstand me.
Brenda raised some valuable points which I will take and meditate on. This is a place for all of us to grow and become united.
Love you all.
Heidi
winner08:
Yes musicman you are correct. These poor animals, cows, pigs and such do suffer something awful while being killed for dinner. Yet that doesn't stop me from loving beef and pork. I seen that document on how they kill these animals. Hanging them on a hook and cutting them down the middle. Letting the blood drain out. Then the immigrants clean up the mess and work the line, cut them up and probably get pay close to nothing. That's a different topic. For you Roy, Yes the animals do suffer before, and doing their death. But like I said this will not stop me from eating beef and pork or chicken.
Darren
carol v:
I certainly believe the animals should be slaughtered as humanely as possible but let's also be aware that God Himself was requiring the slaughter of animals as sacrifices for centuries. The Levites and their families ate these animals.
I imagine that slaughtering something like a bullock is not a pretty sight and if we saw it on video we wouldn't enjoy it, but God obviously intended for animals to be slaughtered for food.
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