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Gods laws of health and nutrition - where in Scipture?
KristaD:
--- Quote from: OBrenda on September 05, 2008, 03:16:10 PM ---
One of the parts of the epigeome program I couldn't find for people to watch, was a study they did over several generations of people. What they found was that those people who had great grandparents that lived through famine, where more healthy than, people who had grandparents who ate plenty of nutritious food.
Doesn't make any sense, but it goes along with what Beloved said about eating less...
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It makes perfect sense because the people that survived a famine would be the healthiest people as the sickly people would die without proper nutrition. So the offspring of the famine survivors would be more healthy because the received the healthy genes from their ancestors. The people that ate nutritious foods would be a toss up because more people (healthy AND sickly) would survive and produce offspring that would inherit healthy AND sickly genes. The more unhealthy people survive the more their ailments will be seen in future generations.
Beloved:
Krista though your explanation could explain some survival advantages, not all animals feed alike, pecking order also comes into play the alpha female and male always get first dibs, the more agressive get theirs and then there is the begging size at the time of famine the runt of the litter often loses.
In the longevity studies with animals ALL were all gentically equal, the only thing that differed was the amount of food in the diet. These studies have been repeated in different species also.
They think the teleomere the ends of the chromosomes are somehow protected. The shorter the telomere the shorter the life. :D No they have not found anything yet that does this but they are looking for one.
Also hormone levels/ reporduction and also stress can adversely effect longevity. These make sence, there is a lot of energy needed to sustain both of these things
beloved
KristaD:
I was not arguing what you stated Beloved. I was just pointing out that survival of the fitest has a lot to do with what Brenda had said about famine survivors. I do not believe their descendants were healthier because they ate less, I beileve they were healthier because the unhealthy people died rathere than passing on their genes. The people Brenda spoke of were not genetically equal nor were they animals in a controlled study so it's very hard to compare the two. Those studies may indeed be true but I don't think that is what caused the outcome from the study Brenda sited as the people going through famine were most likely not receiving much nourishment from what they ate and nourishment is the most important thing to maintaining health not just eating less.
Beloved:
I do not see where what you say is argumentative, rather we are all just looking at the problem with a different view. We are like the four blind men and the elephant, explaining our view.
It is known that survivors of concentration and POW camps, famine etc , tend to live longer, what is hard to compare is the groups beginning weight and medical conditions, someone with heart disease who now find themselves with has no medications will not survive the ordeal.
It is also why you do not want to be in the lower weight limit, i.e very low body fat level . When put through a famine the organs that will support the body will be muscle heart kidney. Over time there function will be diminished. Those with some body fat will work on their fat for awhile before going to these organs. Many of the people did develop nutritional deficiencies, scurvy etc.
On the other hand If the individual were obese and put through this, then the physical stress of hard labor would effect them adversely. The good side is that type 2 diabetes and High Blood pressure would be improved. They could come out in better shape then they went in. I do not think there were many like this then but today there would be many in this category.
It is very hard to compare and draw too many conclusions from famine survivors. We do know that being normal weight does allow for longer life, so these ordeals could have helped them from gaining excess weight. At any point , all of this shows us that we all need to strive for balance and high quality food.
Like Kat and her post on Gardening...the only way you can be sure of your food is to grow it yourself. This way you know the soil and conditions of growth. Another reason to compost it is "a Good thing". Perhaps a reason God told his people to let the land rest for a year...let the growth that season become compost for the next crop.
For some people a low carb diet just pushes the chemistry in one direction. The body doesn't get excessive calories and they are more protein and fat then they body has to manufacture glucose and feed the body, if the calories and carbs are high, then the body is very efficient at storing this in the form of fat, it is most energy efficient chemistry of the body. That is what happens in times of plenty. the bears and hibernators depend on it.
mmmm I need to hibernate for a year that way I do not have to avoid foods like "Imagine Whirld Piece" by Ben and Jerry, pasta bread etc. ;D
beloved
iris:
Hi Beloved,
That was so interesting.
In fact, this whole thread had been very interesting.
I think what all this shows is that its all up to God.
Iris
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