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AK4:
Brenda I was wondering about that word too.  I looked it up and it means pretty much what it says.

I think it just means we died for Christ.  We overcame the beast, his mark on our hands(swearing allegance) and forehead (overcame him in our carnal-mind).

JMHO

In Jesus,

Anthony

lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Kat on August 23, 2008, 06:10:29 PM ---
Hi Alex,

Here is what you were referring to that Ray mentioned from the 2007 conference.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5815.15.html -----

Now for the last few years I’ve been looking at all these things, about the return of Christ, the millennium and the kingdom and all these things.  I haven’t written to much about that yet.  You know why?  Because I don’t understand it!  But now I’m getting there and here is a Scripture in Revelation.

Rev 20:2  And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.
v. 3  And he cast him into the bottomless pit (abyss), and shut him up and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled. And after that he must be loosed a little season.

That verse gives me a problem, it would take a long time to explain why.  Believe me most people that teach and write books on these prophecies, don’t have a clue.  Not only do they not have the answers, they don’t even know what the problems are.   
But these verses here;

Rev 20:4  …And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
v. 5  But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Both of these verses can not be true, there is a problem here.  I racked my brain, in my spare time, but I kept it in the back of my mind for a long time.  There is a problem, that won’t work and I can’t make it work.  It doesn’t fit, there is no way to make this thing fit.  Then some months ago, now I know why it, “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” won’t fit.  It’s not Scripture!  Tischendorf has it right there.

-Rev. 20:5  But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished
It’s not in the Sinaiticus.  So I said, okay now we’re moving again.  We’re a little closer to the Truth. 
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mercy, peace and love
Kat



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Yup that was it, thank you kat! It makes alot more sence now understanding that their is one ressurection of the dead for saint and sinner alike ;)

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