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Richard D:
Eph 1:4  even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love:

This scripture  Eph 1:4 is saying  I should be holy which means called out ,this I understand but without blemish which means without imperfection. I have imperfections not only in in character but even in appearance too.

I read a scripture but don’t remember where it is I will start writing them down as to give them out on my post but Jesus said be ye perfect as your father in heaven is perfect. Then he said to the women caught in adultery, go and sin no more.

 I know I just been through this on this forum and I felt secure again but scripture is telling me I need to be perfect without imperfection. Well, that leaves me out big time! Then it says to sin no more. Unless God changes me I would be and idiot to think I will not sin again, just not happening although I wish I would not sin again.

Then Ray’s free will teaching tells me that Jesus himself did not have free will so I must conclude that God the father did not give Jesus any causes that would cause him to sin and I thank God for that or we would all be lost in our sins.



Eph 1:5  having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

How does one know if they are foreordained, is it like buying a raffle ticket for a good cause of course and having to wait and see if one wins? Or does one know if one is foreordain by one’s own life meaning they are perfect and do not sin.

I ask Jesus into my life so why am I receiving causes that cause me to sin if I am indeed a part of the elect but if apart of the many then I understand he’s just not dealing with me now but will at a later time. I don’t understand why I keep going back to this thought but I do.

I once hear a Christian say or so called Christian say being a Christian is the easiest thing to be. If that is true then I can’t be a Christian but why would God give me a desire?
I read also another scripture that says our God is not a God of confusion. Is God trying to tell me something here?

OBrenda:
One thing that helped me was study on the parable of the prodigal son.

Keeping in mind if we are the elect, we will be Judges.

Both Sons[called & chosen] will have an inheritance [saved] but which one would you choose to judge you?
And with your answer, you will understand why God would have us struggle with sin.

Hope it helps a little,
Brenda

 

Richard D:
It does help Brenda; my understanding is not perfect and has uncertainties. I do know this, if I go back to the church which I came from I would have no chance ever understanding what God wants or expects of me. Maybe one has to be a Christian for many years to understand with confidents!

Thank you for responding to my post it does give me something to think about.

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Richard D on September 17, 2008, 12:54:33 PM ---
 Is God trying to tell me something here?


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Yes.

Act 14:22  Confirming the souls of the disciples and exhorting them to continue in the faith and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Remember,

Rom 7:19  For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
 
Rom 7:24  O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

Gal 5:17  For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Richard,

I can only suggest you pray for faith and patience, slow things down a bit, you cannot consume an entire side of beef in one sitting, there is much meat to digest to be sure but we can only process so much at a time.

Perhaps being a "Christian" in a denomination is an easy thing to do but getting saved is anything but easy, Ray has a great article from the Nashville '05 Conference entitled "How Hard Is Getting Saved?" Here it is;

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3849.0.html

Peace (and patience) to you Brother,

Joe

Robin:
Hi Richard,

I have been where you are and what I've learned to do is to use the verses as a spiritual gage. I have 10 pages of verses like those you post. All those verses showed me the "beast" and showed me where I miss the mark. They are the very verses God used to teach me and call me out of the church. I once thought I was ok within the church teachings. I was forever saved by my confession of faith. Those verses showed me just how wrong I was. I could not measure up.

I believe all those verses are true and I press on to reach the high calling of God. I thank God for those scriptures that crush my self righteousness. It can be frightening and confusing to read those verses, but I would have never even realized that I was the beast if God hadn't opened my eyes by using those verses.

He is the author and finisher of our faith. Be still and know that he is God.

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