Maybe I’m confused but does knowing the truth really matter? If one believes there is a place of torment when that one dies does he or she not discovers the goodness of God?
I learned from Ray’s papers that I’m the beast so what do I do with that knowledge? If I try on my own to put the beast down is this not of my own doing and not of Christ? And if not of Christ is it not in vain? But whatever I do is it’s not of Christ anyways?
After reading Rays papers on free will I honestly believe I only have a will but not free. I can see that very clear. God causes me to choose the only action possible for me at each moment of my life. Do I have any say in anything I do?
I’ am programmed from the beginning whenever the beginning was. It’s like I’m a robot but I don’t feel like a robot and of greater value too. I’m going to be and do what ever God declares I will be or do.
I will receive a certain amount of light whether I want it or not. I will be whatever whether I want it or not, I will do whatever I will do whether I want to do it or not. It doesn’t matter what I want I have no say do I?
Before I came across Rays papers I ask God if he would do me a favor and I asked that when I die just let me stay dead I really don’t want life I think it blank blank blanks
Now after reading Rays papers I think of death as heaven you know, there is no pain there, no suffering there no tears there no hunger there no work there no disturbances there only peace. In some ways I wouldn’t mind not going on forever. I don’t know if God will still grant me my wish seeing where it’s of God not me.
To me God is the greatest being in the universe but I don’t know what to do with him, he’s beyond my scope no doubt. I enjoy all these truths I’m learning from Rays papers and on this forum but I’m thinking also does truth really matter. It is what it is and I can not alter one aspect of my life, I don’t even know if I should even call it my life.
I’m just thinking with all this truth what good does it do me? If I talk to a person who God has not called he won’t listen or if too another who will listen it’s because God call that one. Either way I have nothing to do with it.
I know now why Jesus die for us and its because He God Jesus is responsible for every sin committed under heaven but we are accountable but in the end who am I to say to the potter why have you made me like this!
I had to vent, sorry, I hope you understand but if you don’t it’s because God kept it from you or if you do it’s because God gave it to you. Please don’t get me wrong I love God maybe I’m just in a funny mood today. All glory and power to God.
In His Love. Richard
Richard D.
This is 'old' indiana bob. Many good forum responses to your question (s).
Please allow me to try something unconventional to see if it helps a little.
Richard wrote:
"I’m just thinking with all this truth what good does it do me? If I talk to a person who God has not called he won’t listen or if too another who will listen it’s because God call that one. Either way I have nothing to do with it."Bob writes:
The understanding that I have is as follows:
God has planned from the beginning to call everyone. We may be used in this task.
God began by laying a foundation for his overall plan by allowing or granting human kind the privilege of participating in the creation of new life (babies) with the potential to live forever.
God is now letting or will let each of us live on the earth long enough to learn that we need God in our lives, that we ARE NOT independent or self sufficient. Apart from God we are nothing.
Along the way, God is selecting certain individuals to act as teachers and managers of the renewed Eden that will exist here on the earth. "not many mighty, not many noble, but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise" I Cor 1:26, for we see very ordinary folks being selected for this purpose.
God has provided a unique, chief leader/teacher in Jesus, our Lord and our Elder brother.
God will also provide assistants for the Lord to carry out God's will on the earth by training a group of sinners that God has caused to believe, to serve as teachers during the "judgment period" when all living will be learning righteousness from Jesus and through the elect.
So, eventually we will be doing pretty much what you are wanting to do now, in this life, but it is not yet time, we are not fully prepared and would make mistakes that would not be best for the people that we wish to help.
So, why doesn't God allow us to decide who to approach and who to grant a place in His kingdom?
Because we don't have that authority and are not ready. We are eager and in some cases perhaps we are willing to give our lives for the cause of Christ, but that is human, carnal flesh talking. We don't know nearly enough to make such serious decisions. Jesus the Christ alone has that authority.
One of the major things we need to learn, one of the main purposes of this process, is to teach us patience and long suffering and pure love toward our fellow citizens in the future Kingdom of God.
We, you and me and all the other friends we have made on the forum are really just babes in Christ.
We see that we are learning so much so fast and have learned more about God's purpose in a short time than we had learned before in our entire life. AND yet we are not ready to teach God's truth to those around us.
Even the exchanges we share on the forum MAY BE inspired and moderated by God's spirit. So, we need to be patient and very careful to allow God to set the pace of our sharing and of our taking advantage of opportunities to help or teach or correct others.
I imagine that you are going through the same struggle that most of us have experienced or will experience eventually. So, if possible and according to the understanding that God has given you, please just consider that you are like a first semester freshman high school student just like the rest of us and take the time to let this wonderful opportunity soak in before you frustrate yourself trying to be worthy of the opportunity. All of this will come in time and we all, I think, have felt or still feel just as mixed up as you say that you do.
Our God is a very patient, very loving and gracious being and God's son Jesus, the Lord of all, is a perfect example of how patient we must learn to be.
Please continue asking questions and sharing your concerns and please give yourself a year or so to become more familiar with what Christ's spirit is showing us all as he sends the "comforter" the holy spirit to guide us into all knowledge. In the meanwhile, rest in the comfort of knowing that in the fullness of time, all will be dealt with in Godly love and given what is best for their individual needs.
Warm regards, Indiana Bob