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eggi:
I've seen that idea about aliens as well. Found a website once saying that the aliens envied man's incredible spiritual power. Wow! Do we really have an INCREDIBLE spiritual power? Supposedly, the only reason they hesitated to invade planet Earth was because they were scared of our incredible brains. The website was loaded with diagrams and drawings explaining this, and the owner of it claimed to have been contacted by these alien races, and they had told him these things.

Why would they tell him their weaknesses? I wonder... From where do they get it?

We see the salvation of all in John 10:16 - but not all, believe me, I used that verse - and it's really talking about Israel and the Gentiles - but certainly not ALL!
 ;D

God bless you,
Eirik

Douglas Wayne Thomas:
Eirik - I have a question; if you are not a Jew then are you not a gentile? Are there any other kind of people in God's eyes? Just wondering.

Douglas

frecklegirl417:
I went back and read all of chapter 10, thank you very much for opening my eyes more. If you read:

John 10:7THERFORE JESUS SAID AGAIN: "MOST TRULY I SAY  TO YOU, I AM THE DOOR OF THE SHEEP." v8 "ALL THOSE THAT HAVE COME IN PLACE OF ME ARE THIEVES AND PLUNDERS; BUT THE SHEEP HAVE NOT LISTENED TO THEM. v9 IAM THE DOOR; WHOEVER ENTERS THROUGH ME WILL BE SAVED, AND HE WILL GO IN AND OUT AND FIND PASTURAGE. v10 THE THIEF DOES NOT COME UNLESS IT IS TO STEAL AND SLAY AND DESTROY. I HAVE COME THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND MIGHT HAVE IT IN ABUNDANCE.

We all went out and used the pasture but we also heard are Shepperd call us back. If I understood these verses right. Jesus is our Shepperd and he has called all of His sheep to him. The BT family here, if I understood this right, have all come to His door and HE opened it for us.

Thank you for opening my eyes more. If I misunderstood all this please tell me, I will not be upset. I am just learning how to walk with the blinders off and the ear muffs.

                                     With God's Love and Understanding,
                                                  Pam

tinknocker:

--- Quote from: eggi on September 28, 2008, 03:24:01 AM ---
We see the salvation of all in John 10:16 - but not all, believe me, I used that verse - and it's really talking about Israel and the Gentiles - but certainly not ALL!
 ;D  

--- End quote ---

Good morning Erick,

At least it's morning here in California. Let's back up a little here and review some of what Ray has been teaching us. Let's start with this remembering Jesus words are spirit and to understood spiritually;

Ezekiel 18:4
Look, every life belongs to Me. The life of the father is like the life of the son--both belong to Me. The person who sins is the one who will die.

Every life belongs to Him - all are part of the flock. How did He get them?

2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, and will bring swift destruction on themselves.

He purchased them - they are His - all have been bought

Romans 2:28-29    
For a person is not a Jew who is one outwardly, and true circumcision is not something visible in the flesh. 29  On the contrary, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart--by the Spirit, not the letter. His praise is not from men but from God.

Romans 9:6-8  
But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7  Neither are they all children because they are Abraham's descendants. On the contrary, in Isaac your seed will be called. 8  That is, it is not the children by physical descent who are God's children, but the children of the promise are considered seed.

Galatians 3:29  
And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, heirs according to the promise.

1 Peter 2:9-10    
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the One who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. 10  Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

These verses tell us who are Jews and who are the Nation of Israel.

So when you said this is talking about Jews and Gentiles you were correct, but it's not physical Jews and Gentiles it's spiritural Jews and Gentiles

Blessings
Tom

Phil3:10:
Tinknocker,
Verse 16 of John 10 to me is perhaps one of the greatest attestations of universal salvation. Did not CHRIST come to save the whole world? Verse 27 through 30 does explain that HIS sheep hear HIS voice, HE knows them and they follow HIM.  Verse 28 and 29 goes on to say that no one can pluck them out of the FATHER'S hand. GOD'S chosen/very elect are HIS special ones and the number is few.
What I think is that CHRIST is saying in verse 16 is that HE must also bring those that hear not HIS voice into HIS fold and there shall be one fold, and one Shepard.  I don't see this as aliens but as those who do not yet know HIM.  Remember that every knee shall bow and that every tongue shall confess the HE is LORD. Just my humble opinion.
Phil3:10

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