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aqrinc:
God is Not constrained by time because He Exists Out of time. All came out of Him, He did not come out of All.
Geo.
--- Quote from: Martinez on October 04, 2008, 06:55:50 PM ---
You know, I'm not sure time even exists.
I think "time" is just man's way of measuring the ordering things, that is, putting the things that have happened and will happen into a specific order.
Just because things seem to happen in a specific order that seems to imply "time" doesn't necessarily mean that there is "time" and maybe that is what makes time travel impossible because "time" doesn't really exist, and if it doesn't really exist, that would certainly explain why We have not control over it.
Maybe since time doesn't really exist, it isn't time that makes things happen in order at all but God who cause's things to happen in order.
Maybe that is why people have such a hard time understanding how God See's the beginning from the end, because He doesn't see it in the context of "time" because it is Him causing things to occur in a given order.
Maybe God is not constrained by "time" because "time doesn't exist!
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Richard D:
Anthony
I think this scripture might be referring to time travel. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord………….LOL…….I thought I would have some fun wit this too. :)
In His Love. Richard.
AK4:
--- Quote from: aqr on October 04, 2008, 07:04:29 PM ---God is Not constrained by time because He Exists Out of time. All came out of Him, He did not come out of All.
Geo.
--- Quote from: Martinez on October 04, 2008, 06:55:50 PM ---
You know, I'm not sure time even exists.
I think "time" is just man's way of measuring the ordering things, that is, putting the things that have happened and will happen into a specific order.
Just because things seem to happen in a specific order that seems to imply "time" doesn't necessarily mean that there is "time" and maybe that is what makes time travel impossible because "time" doesn't really exist, and if it doesn't really exist, that would certainly explain why We have not control over it.
Maybe since time doesn't really exist, it isn't time that makes things happen in order at all but God who cause's things to happen in order.
Maybe that is why people have such a hard time understanding how God See's the beginning from the end, because He doesn't see it in the context of "time" because it is Him causing things to occur in a given order.
Maybe God is not constrained by "time" because "time doesn't exist!
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Not to be argumentative, but i think "God is Not constrained by time because He Exists Out of time." is another one of those babylon teachings that doesnt fit scripture. Its always referred to as ages (beginning) or some kind of time period when it is applied to Jesus (not everlasting), now to the Father i do not know. I guess you could say before the Father formed Jesus/Jehovah there was no time--Just my guess there, but when applied to Jesus/Jehovah there is always some kind of connection with time.
Anthony
Kat:
I have enjoyed the humor in the idea of time travel, but on a serious note.
I think God has given us the precept of time so that the squences of the physical can be understood. We are born, grow old and die, this is life, a squence in time. Time gives us a prespective on the order of things that so we can learn from our experiences, we remember pass events as something that has already happened. We know we are now in the present, not pass or future, it is a concept of the mind/intellect. So time works to give us an order to the events we experience, but I think it serves a physical purpose only.
In the realm of the third heaven there would be no time, Because God bridges the gap of time, He is the "I Am." God is able to see the end from the beginning, He describe Himself as "The One who is and who was and who is to be."
It is quite difficult to imagine being in the realm of timelessness, isn't that what the kingdom will be like.
Here is an analogy Ray uses.
If you want to come up with an analogy of where God is in His own realm, as far as time goes. The closes physical analogy you could come up with is a circle. Not starting back there and going this way, that way is the past and this way is the future. Now if the realm of eternity is as a circle, can somebody point to where eternity begins on a circle? Can anyone show me, on this circle, where eternity ends? You can’t, can you.
Now I’ll give you another little mind boggler, not only can you not show me where it begins or where it ends, I’m telling you it has no beginning and it has no end. It doesn’t move in a circle, it is a circle. Therefore time has nothing to do with eternity. Even your dictionaries most of them, not all, say eternity is an endless period. Eternity has nothing to do with time, time starts here and goes to there. Eternity is like a circle, you can’t find the beginning and you can’t find the end. Because it has no beginning and it has no end. Therefore in that sense a circle is ultimate truth.http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3720.0 ----
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Martinez:
Maybe the difference between existence here and in "eternity" is that there is no such thing as corruption, decay and death.
I mean really think about it, what would be the difference between living in a world with "time" and world outside of "time", I mean really, what would you notice?
Things wouldn't really change from a perspective of things getting older and decaying.
Let me point out that I'm only throwing around ideas, this isn't some little doctrine of mine.
The thing is though that the whole God existing outside of time and indeed the whole time thing itself is based on conventional wisdom which does make me extremely suspicious of it!
I guess the question here is, if God is sovereign, just how sovereign is He?
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