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Did Jesus have to learn what evil was to know good?
Falconn003:
--- Quote from: enigmoxical on October 10, 2008, 09:15:31 PM ---That's right, Rodger. Everything this world has to offer - the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life - IS the fruit of this WORLD (which IS the tree of the knowledge of good and evil):
"It is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it." (Ecc. 1:13; Concordant Literal Version)
But Christianity errs by teaching that the Genesis 3 story is a literal, historic event, when in fact it IS nothing but a parable. And parables are FICTITIOUS stories (see Strong's Concordance).
So Rodger, how have I (in your own words) made this parable "carnal?"
Peace
--- End quote ---
Hmmmmm.... i already did explain/ed,,,,,what more do you need/want ? And not in my OWN words..... !
Rodger
ScarletWren:
With regard to the tree.....why can't it be literal? Not that I think actually eating the fruit instilled the knowledge in and of itself, but once they ate, then they knew what it was to disobey and thus they began to realize right from wrong....ergo good and evil. Sort of like a child eating the cookie from the cookie jar the first chance he got. Then when he is caught, he realizes he did something "bad." I believe most of what the Bible says is literal, it's just that those particular stories (out of thousands of similar ones) were given to the writers because they also pictured something of prophecy, as in Joseph prefiguring Christ, etc. etc. The story of Ruth pictures the kinsman-redeemer. (And Ruth and Boaz were listed in the Messiah's genealogy). Scripture goes into great detail to describe the serpent's role in tempting Eve. There were probably many transgressions prior to this, but it wasn't until God said not to do something and they did it anyway, did it become apparent that there were seeds of rebellion within. Just my thoughts which aren't very scientific.
I haven't read/listened to any of the recent conference so I don't know what was said about the flood but it will have to be very good to dissuade me. I guess I still retain somewhat of a childish awe of scripture. It would take a lot to dissuade me otherwise. Of course Revelation is spiritual. And the parables of Jesus were not literal and certain other stories that were told as such in scripture. But right in the beginning of Revelation John says it was a vision and "signified." Good thoughts on everyone's part though, very interesting. And I have been known to change my mind in certain areas, lol I know that the Bible wasn't written to give us the answers to the how and why of all our questions that we have at this time, Jesus could have given us a lot more answers and commands if that were His intention. It's nice to know tho that someday the veil will be lifted. He created us to wonder and search, praise Him for His great and awesome wisdom.
Dennis Vogel:
Of this you can be certain. If the church teaches it, it is not just wrong, it is 180 degrees wrong.
Dennis
ScarletWren:
If the church teaches it, it is wrong, Dennis? Wow, as much as I dislike much of what most churches teach I wouldn't go so far as to imply everything they teach is wrong.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Scarlet,
Can you name a doctrine that they have gotten right, even just one?
Peace,
Joe
P.S. We have been down this road before, here is a thread that tackled this question;
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5130.0.html
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