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winner08:
Thanks everybody for the support. I will tell you I have a whole new found respect for Ray and what he does(teaches). Man, when I would say God will save all I would go through the Bible and other sources to find scripture to back it up and since I don't know where exactly those Scriptures are I would have to really search hard and long. Needless to say it took alot out of me. Yet they refuse to see. Not that I thought they would but I did it formyself more then them. Like I said I have a whole new found respect for Ray. Not that I didn't respect him in the first place. It is really hard work. then to just get it totally rejected.
Darren
Douglas Wayne Thomas:
Winner08 - "mainstream Christian churches" have to exclude someone or else they can not feel special. If you let them know that everyone will be saved then they have no one to exclude.
If they do not have free will then they can not choose to go to heaven or Hell. Without Hell they have nothing to threaten non-believers into believing like them.
Once you start to believe like them then you have to behave in a certain way to maintain membership in that group. Part of being a good member of any organized group is paying for that privilege (tithes).
See where this ends? It doesn't until you, or your family, run out of money!
Have you ever seen Jehovah W's or Mormons plying their trade down on crack street? You won't either, poor people, drug addicts, hookers, and homeless people can not fill the coffers of the church, therefore they don't try to recruit those type of people.
Who did Jesus spend most of his time with? That's right; the diseased, homeless, addicted and hookers! Jesus said the well do not need a doctor.
Seeking to do God's will always,
Doug
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