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Dave in Tenn:
We see the terms used here in regards to scripture and understanding.  I know that at least the 'milk' part has basis in scripture, but I don't know if these terms are scripturally defined.  Any help?  Does Ray address this specifically?

Amrhrasach:
Here’s part of it anyway.

http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html

THE MILK BUT NOT THE MEAT

The "DEPTHS of God" in Christ Jesus are not tolerated in the Church today. They may teach the name of Jesus. They may teach that Jesus died for you. They may teach that there is forgiveness of sins in Jesus. They may teach that Jesus ONLY is your Saviour. But is the teaching of "Christ crucified" the "DEPTHS of God"? No, it is not. Paul did teach the Corinthians about "Christ crucified" (I Cor. 1:23). Paul also admitted that this was merely the "milk and not meat [solid food]" (I Cor. 3:2). The Corinthians had the "milk of God’s word," but this did not make them spiritual. Notice what Paul says:

"For ye [Gk: ‘ye’ means, all of you] are yet CARNAL" (Verse 3).

And what does it mean to be "carnal"? Answer:
"For to be CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH (Rom. 8:6)!

Paul DID NOT; Paul COULD NOT, teach the Corinthians (and others) the "meat" of God’s word, because, "ye are yet carnal." Am I going too fast for anyone? Are you looking up these Scriptures that I am presenting? Have I misrepresented anything that Paul has written for "OUR admonition upon which the ends of the world are come" (I Cor. 10:11)? The Church as a whole has never understood the deep and spiritual things of God! Only "The FEW"—the "called" and "chosen"—"the ELECT."

The Galatian congregation was equally carnal to those of the Corinthian congregation. Paul asks them:
"Are ye so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect [mature] by the FLESH? " (Gal. 3:3).

They had a "first love," but they "LEFT thy first love" (Rev. 2:4). I, and everyone that I know, have sometime in their life, "LEFT their first love." If you have never "left your first love," I have serious doubts as to whether you ever had a first love. It is the natural progression of our maturing, according to the Scriptures.

A.

Matt:
Dave,
Amazing, I was just reading about this yesterday :).
Good reply Amrhrasach, my reply was going to be similar to yours.
I have crazy hours, this is a big reason I do not post often.
You guys are all so quick, I mainly enjoy reading what everyone posts!

Matt

Douglas Wayne Thomas:
Hebrews 5:12-14

     There's no excuse for a serious Christian to settle for milk instead of meat. "IN fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food (meat) is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil” 

     Mature Christians should be teachers (they lead by example). Teachers must be equipped to handle the word of truth (do they, can they, comprehend the true depth of what Jesus did for everyone)? As well, they must have knowledge and spiritual insight, which comes only through the reading and study of God's Word—plus constant prayer! Mature believers (meat eaters) are sensitive to the Spirit's leading. They understand the difference between right and wrong, important and inconsequential, good and evil.

Ray writes in The Lake of Fire - Part XI

http://bible-truths.com/lake11.html

      Can boys become men on their mother's milk? Neither can men become spiritually mature on things of childhood. Paul said when he was a child, he thought and acted as a child, but when he became a man, he said he put away childish things. The Christian Church today refuses to put away childish things. Here is the purpose for the Law of Moses in the Church:

      "Wherefore the law was [it was not past tense for Paul because he had matured] our schoolmaster [Gk: tutor or guardian] to BRING US UNTO CHRIST, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come [faith HAS now come] we are NO LONGER under a schoolmaster [the law of Moses]" (Gal. 3:24-25).

      How is it that all the educated theologians with all their PhD’s can't understand this simple analogy. The law—the law of Moses, was our "schoolmaster." It WAS, it isn't any more. Why not? Because mature adults are no longer children. We have all had a schoolmaster in our youth. We were under them, subject to them, disciplined by them, taught by them. I am now 62 years old. Am I still under my grade school teachers? Of course not. Do I, however, try to remember the things I learned from my teacher? Why yes, of course. But as a man I am now subject to higher authorities. A person will never acquire a college degree if he never gets out of grade school.

As we grow as Christians we are weaned off of milk and onto meat, we go from being students to teachers.

Seeking to do God's will always,

Doug

Richard D:
Dave in Tenn.


Excellent question, I don’t have the answer but I’m keeping my eyes glued to this topic. Thank you for asking this question.

                                      In His Love. Richard.

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