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Amrhrasach:
“Repentance”.

“One scripture says God frames evil, you know what it is when you put a frame around something,  you know frame it.  He frames evil, so it won’t go totally out of control.  What appears to be out of control today in the world, is actually framed.  God knows how far it’s going.  Nothing is out of control.

God makes vessels of honor and dishonor.  He makes vessels of dishonor and then has mercy on the other vessels.  Some He hardens and some He has mercy on.  He has had mercy on everybody in this room.  If you have never killed anybody or molested children or done any of these horrendous things.  He has great mercy on your life.  Now we need to be thankful for that and not assume we don’t have very much to repent of.  We have to repent of what? 

O man, that’s what we have to repent of.

Whatever O man is.  That’s what we are, because O man is Adam.  O man came out of Adam.  Where did you come from, some place else?  We’re all out of Adam.  And what does Adam do?  Being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters and on and on.  Wow, this is O man out of Adam.  This is what he does. 

And only by the grace of God, some of us didn’t have to go that route.”

From “Repentance, 2005”.

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Finely split hairs, God’s way.

There is SO MUCH to learn.     

And I thank God.

And thank you Ray.

A.

winner08:
I must say your post got to me. What do I have to repent for? What do I have to be thankful for. I think the two go hand and hand. I repent for my human nature that against Gods nature and am thankful for not going the route that you spoke of. The evil, murder, child molestation, and those such things. Ray says we all could have went that route but by the grace of God we didn't.

Marlene:
Hi, Look at the Route Paul went. He did some of the things you mentioned, like murder, anger and such. God showed his Glory by giving Paul mercy. There are all kinds of sin and evil. I think this shows us God is in control and not man. We all have something to overcome. When, we overcome it is certainly to show Glory to God. We to not have anything to boast about. Can you even imagine the Love Paul had for Christ cause of all his terrible sins that the world looks as worse then other sins. Yes, I believe god controls evil in each of us. He has made some for honor and some for dishonor. It all is certainly to glorify him.
I bet people are trying to figure out even today how Paul got there. We know it was because God choose to show his glory this way. I look at myself and judge myself and I feel like the worse sinner in the world. This was a good discussion. Yes, evil is controlled by god or it would be totally evil and dark.
In His Love
Marlene

Heidi:
Amrhrasach, I will share my testimony with you regarding this bible-study that Ray did. 

I used to be very judgemental prior to coming to BT.  I think self-righteous is a better work actually.  (I am still very embarrassed thinking back now on how I used to be.)  But praise God, when I read the study on repentance, God opened my spiritual eyes and I knew then that I was no better than any murdering, gunslinger, raping drunkard that has ever lived.  I was that "O'man". 

It humbled me to the core and I give my Heavenly Farther all the glory for it.  I no longer judge other people for anything, except....nowa days I judge myself.

Amrhrasach:
Heidi said:  "I was that "O'man"."

As am I.

I believe that is Ray's point of this study, exactly, and the point Jesus was driving to the heart of the followers.

My thrust of quoting Ray in the post was that we are all the "o man", and the only difference between one or any other is the grace given, as Ray says.  His point is thick and rich with wisdom and not as simple as one may think in just a casual "lord, forgive my sins".

But even more, only Christ can change us internally from the "o man".

Not elementary, in my view.

A.

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