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Physical Bodies at ressurrection
fe32k:
These are all fine responses but none really answers my question. My thought was that Spiritual beings can be wicked and used Satan (aka the Devil) as an example. I am not for nor am I against a physical resurrection, but I need to know why is it that we should be 100% certain that the wicked are resurrected in a physical body and it seems that Ray is. To say that they are raised this way because it is more humiliating sounds like human reasoning and not scriptural in my opinion, but I could be wrong and will admit it if a scripture is shown.
Now here is my question again, rephrased to be a bit more comprehensible:
Ray says that the wicked are raised in physical bodies because the wicked cannot have a spiritual body. But then why is Satan a spiritual being with a spiritual body, but yet is wicked? Is it a prerequisite for a spiritual being to be glorious and incorruptible? Or can a spiritual being be corruptible? (i.e. Satan)
And Arcturus, I do know the things which you quoted about Satan, but to lie is to sin, and he is a lier from the beginning. So therefore he must be wicked, despite the fact that he's doing God's will.
thanks all,
Fe
mharrell08:
Fe,
What part of the excerpt I posted with scriptures did you still not understand?
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: fe32k on October 19, 2008, 05:34:21 PM ---
Ray says that the wicked are raised in physical bodies because the wicked cannot have a spiritual body. But then why is Satan a spiritual being with a spiritual body, but yet is wicked? Is it a prerequisite for a spiritual being to be glorious and incorruptible? Or can a spiritual being be corruptible? (i.e. Satan)
thanks all,
Fe
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I think I understand what you are saying, but why can they not both be true? Satan is wicked, but he is not human.
Saddam Hussein was very wicked but he is not a spirit.
From the article:
1Co 15:50 “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
Chapter 15 is speaking of the true Elect Saints of God “inheriting the Kingdom of God. Is the act of raising the wicked from the dead and act of their “inheriting the Kingdom of God?” I think not. Will the wicked then “inherit incorruption” at their resurrection? Well many say “YES, yes they will.” NO, no they WON’T! Are men like Mao Tse Tung, Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein, who are among the most “corruptible” men who have ever lived, going to be given bodies that are “incorruptible?” Do the Scriptures lie when they tell us that “corruption” (as in the above named persons) does NOT “inherit incorruption?”
fe32k:
Hey Dennis,
Thanks again. But your reasoning assumes that a spirit being is incorruptible. So is satan incorruptible? I totally agree with you that they may both be true, but one must accept the possibility that there are different possibilities. I do not think that this will make or break me, but I think it is important for us to analyze the facts if we are going to make a decision towards one side. So why can't a wicked man be raised with a corruptible spiritual body. It is possible if we believe that Satan is a corruptible spiritual being, right? Your thoughts?...
Fe
dewey:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on October 19, 2008, 05:58:10 PM ---Fe,
What part of the excerpt I posted with scriptures did you still not understand?
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quote] hi my brother, if you are telling me and the other people that read this forum that you understand the spiritual meaning of these scriptures that you quote ,then you are so far out of my league of the understanding of God's word that maybe I should move on to a forum where the people are not so privileged to understand the meanings of the scriptures. I say this because you seem to know the meaning of what Jeasus has spoken in parables. Why ,I spoke in parables so that they would not all believe at the same time ,therefore not be saved in their order .It is very easy to be abusive, especially when you think you know it all.
love y'ans in the Spirit of Jesus
Dewey
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