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The Strong delusion
Martinez:
Most Christians simply cannot conceive of us not having free will.
Free will is the loop hole that allows God to burn people alive forever and yet have no blood on His hands!
You would sooner convince them that there's no trinity than no free will.
AK4:
Im sorry i am harping on it.... and this is not my pet peeve either---but can anyone tell me, is there one doctrine/religion that has no link to free will
Anthony
Martinez:
I don't think the trinity doctrine has a link to free will.
AK4:
--- Quote from: Martinez on October 25, 2008, 03:45:36 AM ---
I don't think the trinity doctrine has a link to free will.
--- End quote ---
LOL i knew that would be the one that would come up....Its 5 oclock in the morning but i do i have an answer from Rays paper that will take that away so i will answer that when i wake up
Thats the one i thought of when i thought of when typing that post
Traditional christainity thinks that God is a closed family (in their own free will/thought) but God is creating a family--all of humanity.
In their own minds their free will, i wont generalise, but the trinity doctrine people believe that they can come to Jesus on their own.
Now lets say they didnt believe that, what does the trinity doctrine do...oh so much besides divide--- "we are the true church" "we will the ones who are raptured" (pretrib or post trib) and it does something else but it eludes me right now-- im sleepy--- but overall their illusion of free will makes them feel they are the true church, are the ones who will be raptured and something else and its all because of their free will to choose the right church and come to Jesus on their own and be saved on their own free will (they chose Him and not Him choosing them) and etc etc etc.
Anthony
ps i tried anwering it while still awake--silly me ;D
Martinez:
The trinity doctrine may encourage all kinds of other golden calves but it doesn't rely on the free will doctrine to exist.
You're not talking how the free will doctrine contributes to other doctrines are you?
are you just talking about other doctrines that need free will to exist?
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