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cjwood:
high pulpit?
heidi gave you an excellent link to the truth from the scriptures themselves. i can only exhort that you read and study them. i believe you have been fed a lie regarding to the true relationship between peter and paul. God will show you the truth if you honestly want to know the Truth. of course, He already knows what you want and don't want. i too am curious, as is indianabob about you avatar name.

claudia

gmik:
Wow, what an interesting thread.  (On several levels).

Paul was sent to the Gentiles.  Jesus brought His message to the Jews.  I hope I am correct on this.  So I actually spend more time in Paul's epistles as I figure they are to ME (a gentile).

I haven't heard of this new message going around about Paul.  Hope I don't. I don't get the purpose of it.  Wasn't there a group ((the Concordant bunch??)that was saying Paul's gospel was a diff. 2nd gospel and higher or something???  can't remember. But I read it on BT (maybe e mail section).

Robin:
I think they have to receive the truth or kill the messenger. If they receive the truth they will have to acknowledge the beast. " O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?"

John 3:
19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

They hated Paul in his time and they will hate him now.

2 Corinthians 11
   What anyone else dares to boast about—I am speaking as a fool—I also dare to boast about. 22Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham's descendants? So am I. 23Are they servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to death again and again. 24Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes minus one. 25Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, I spent a night and a day in the open sea, 26I have been constantly on the move. I have been in danger from rivers, in danger from bandits, in danger from my own countrymen, in danger from Gentiles; in danger in the city, in danger in the country, in danger at sea; and in danger from false brothers. 27I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked. 28Besides everything else, I face daily the pressure of my concern for all the churches. 29Who is weak, and I do not feel weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not inwardly burn?

 30If I must boast, I will boast of the things that show my weakness. 31The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying. 32In Damascus the governor under King Aretas had the city of the Damascenes guarded in order to arrest me. 33But I was lowered in a basket from a window in the wall and slipped through his hands.

John 15:
18If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

AK4:
So far it has been my experience that is it mostly those of the Jewish faith that are trying to discredit Paul.  As i stated in an earlier post that guy has a couple of threads on different subjects trying to negate Paul-(He acknowledges Jesus as a savior, but only of the past Israelites to bring Judah.... I dont know some nonsense)-- and its getting easier and easier to prove this guy wrong even without using something he considers was written by Paul or "his cronies".

Anthony

winner08:
Anthony, I am going back and forth with this person for a month now on Paul. How Paul did not teach what Christ or the apostles taught. Finnally I just said James and peter who at first may have not agreed on Paul's teachings had a meeting and came to the conclusion for Paul to continue his way of teaching the gentiles. I then said If you believe that God's Will is ALWAYS done would you not say that God put His stamp of approval on Paul? Would you not say that if God did not want Paul to teach the way and what he taught that God would  have stop him? God let Peter and them  know that it was His will for Paul to do what he was doing and that they (peter and them) would back him. The more I think about it, did not Paul say he knew how and what to teach because he was taught by the Holy Spirit? Did Paul know anything about what Jesus and the disciples taught. Did he understand their teachings before God struck him? Was not Paul tottally against the teachings of Christ and wanted to destroy it. Wouldn't being taught by the Holy Spirit be just as if he was learning from Jesus Himself ? Not having a clue to what or how to teach, to knowing what and how to teach, that's awesome.

What exactly did Paul teach that was against what the disciples taught?
I figured that Paul got his wisdom directly for the Holy Spirit. Is not  the way he got it? If so, is not that the greatest gift to a man? To have the wisdom given to you directly from God? It would seem so to me. But I could be wrong. But I'm not. Not on that.

Thanks,

Darren

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