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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: aqr on October 26, 2008, 02:58:56 PM ---
The Highest Calling of All is to be a servant to the least one of all. This is my understanding of what the Scriptures teach
in that regard. Saints are converted sinners, so we all are becoming Saints since we are all sinners. The Elect are part of
First Fruits (Saints) the Great Harvest are Saved sinners (Saints).
george.
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Thanks George...short and sweet indeed. :)
Marques
ScarletWren:
Wow,
So Paul only literally called them saints, but didn't mean it. Fine, whatever. In love I consider all believers saints, You can call them whatever you want.
sigh
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: ScarletWren on October 26, 2008, 05:49:45 PM ---Wow,
So Paul only literally called them saints, but didn't mean it. Fine, whatever. In love I consider all believers saints, You can call them whatever you want.
sigh
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Why do you insist on implying negative connotations that have no merit? If there was one comment that deserved this slander, please point it out. This is not that complicated:
You are a 'saint' if God has called and chosen you and you remain faithful to the end. If you are not called and chosen and do not endure to the end, you are not.
No one knows who will be faithful and overcome to the very end. But as they are in the faith now, they are called saints. But if they do not endure to the end and turn away from the truth, then they obviously are not saints.
I can understand everyone not understanding everything. That's fine; as we are all striving for the truth. But the over the top attitude is not edifying in the least. Are we really having a blowout over the definition of the word 'saints'? I mean come on, are we really this carnal? It's not that serious...
Marques
Beloved:
Scarlet Wren you said
So Paul only literally called them saints, but didn't mean it.
In my post I tried to show that it is God that inspired Paul to write...the words that he did. Instead of reading them from Pauls view , perhaps you can try reading them from Gods view...see things as they will be
Marques point that those who do not endure will not be " in that number"
God is really taking to those that will endure .
I think that each of us have to look at ourselves and not at others...the judgements and trials will be ours as individual to endure. In another post they talk about receiving a new name....we cannot focus on that either...we need to focus on today and our own daily growth as Christ works in us.
I love thinking about being a saint, a chosen or elect or bride...., but thinking that I am there already would only be presumptious....God has people in mind since the foundation. I can only stay focused in His word, follow Him and obey..
I hope you are not getting too frustrated, things we see today can be different from the things we see next month when God opens the scriptures for us .
beloved
aqrinc:
ScarletWren,
Sorry i had to leave for a few hours; please do not misunderstand my post below. If there is something that is confusing
there let me know so i can clarify it.
george.
--- Quote from: aqr on October 26, 2008, 02:58:56 PM ---
The Highest Calling of All is to be a servant to the least one of all. This is my understanding of what the Scriptures teach
in that regard. Saints are converted sinners, so we all are becoming Saints since we are all sinners. The Elect are part of
First Fruits (Saints) the Great Harvest are Saved sinners (Saints).
george.
--- End quote ---
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