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Can the gray haired lady change God’s mind?
musicman:
I guarantee you that this country has been greatly blessed. When I think of the starvation taking place in many other countries I find it incredible that people deny this. It is obvious to me that we are God's people, just as the Hebrews were during their time of properity. That does not mean that we are righteous as a nation or that we deserve such prosperity. I think Ray spelled it out pretty well in his Towers paper. While I consider spiritual knowledge to be the greatest blessing, prosperity is a lesser, but still a great blessing. And let's consider the poorest countries in the world. Do they have knowledge of the true God? I don't think so. Neither would they act with any more morality with wealth. What we have to remember is that we are human, and humans are sinful. I'm sure that we will be held accountable because of our prosperity. But every other society would act in the same manner if given the opportunity. I will say it again. I don't fear death nearly as much as I fear living through what I think is headed our way. But perhaps, the blessings will continue for a while longer. (We have our reward, now) Be carefull of what you wish for.
Richard D:
Ricky.
No nation comes into being without God bringing it about. And God is not only God of the poor but also of the rich too. Look at how rich Abraham was and Solomon too.
God has blessed America but America has turned her back on God but this is also Gods doing but all I’m saying is we all judge and we are all prejudice too.
I don’t like the taste of liver so that makes me prejudice against liver, no big deal but if I think myself better than a person of a different race then this is wrong and a sin.
Having the spirit of God in me tells me when I judge in a wrong way and the spirit of the Lord brings it right to my attention. Remember this is not about condemnation but about our learning the ways of God.
So if I judge a person less than myself God is not angry with me at all, because I do that by nature but what God does is point it out to me so I no longer judge in that way which is not right.
All I’m saying here is let’s be honest about it. Anyone can show me scripture about not judging but do the themselves really not judge anyone. Think about it, we are not perfect yet.
God gave me emotion and intellect for a reason but I’m a sinner so I need to learn how to rightly judge.
Its like I said show me a person who does not judge and I’ll show you a graveyard.
In God’s love. Richard.
aqrinc:
Now i am quoting myself, if what i said here contradicts any Scripture please point it out so i can
learn and grow more. My chiding remarks were at the spirit of partisanship and political angst that
was creeping in. This has been a very educational discussion to this point.
george.
--- Quote from: aqr on November 02, 2008, 02:45:11 PM ---Interesting, i wonder who has wisdom to understand that everyone of those people is a child of God in
unbelief and that we should not mock but instead be in sorrow and Prayers for the opening of their eyes
of understanding daily.
Many of us including myself are still wracked about how to do or not to do about all that is not right in
this World.
There are millions of People that do genuinely care about the Life still in the womb, and what will happen
if one candidate wins over another.
We who have been given a special privilege to see and understand into the future must not be mockers and
boasters of our currently not enlightened Brothers and Sisters writhing and crying in pain and darkness out
there.
At this moment in time i feel that God has given me so much Power and Might but i do not yet have the
ability to use it wisely and must stand by in abject sorrow and shame while my Sisters and Brothers in the
World run to and fro in fear and confusion and i can do nothing to help.
I would like to ask each and every Believer on BT to put aside any political feelings and look at the condition
God sees us in and Pray for Him to free us (The World) from the bondage of this physical and spiritual death.
In Humility and Love,
george.
--- End quote ---
Linny:
Ricky, I think I am closer to your beliefs as well. I am blessed by living in America and I wouldn't choose to live anywhere else. However, to say that we have turned our backs on God, my question is, WHEN exactly was America on the right track?
When the Founding Fathers owned slaves?
In 1941 when we allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor so we could get the people behind the Second World War?
Or was it in the 50's when women and blacks were oppressed and we had separate bathrooms, sitting on the back of the bus and black/white water fountains?
Those are just a drop in the bucket. :-[
The entire history of America is filled with the evils of greed and the love of money.
I question the history of America that is taught and that we hear in soundbites daily and as a teacher who has taught and studied history and sadly found the lies written even in the "Christian" history books, I don't drink the Kool-Aid of patriotism anymore.
As a matter of fact...
Dissension is the greatest form of patriotism.”
Thomas Jefferson
I am a child in the Kingdom of the Most High God and I don't pledge to anything or any other entity of this world.
America is just as corrupt as the rest of the world.
I no longer worry about who is in charge down here as I know that God is the One who picks our leaders to bring about His will.
Hope I didn't offend. This is my opinion.
Blessings to all,
Lin
Richard D:
George.
I believe you’re a wonderful brother in the Lord and I love you as a brother. We are all learning and when I read your post or even your replies I see you growing in the knowledge of God big time.
You know my brother Jesus once said to a person you are of your father the devil. The way I see it George, we either have God the father as our spiritual father or the devil as our spiritual father, its one or the other.
Yes, one day all will be saved and all will be in the family of God the creator but as of now only those who have the spirit of God in them are the children of God. For as many that believe in Him gave he power to become the sons of God.
When you say that these are Gods children this is not accurate but only those who God has called to believe and them only.
It’s not about defending our position my brother but about growing in truth. Now you know that we read a scripture and it has its meaning right, but next week we read the same scripture and its meaning has become much deeper.
There is nothing wrong with judging but remember one thing always and it’s this, how we judge we shall also be judged as we judge also. When we judge we should never judge in a way that leads us to believe we are better than another for this is sinful to do.
I’m not saying there is anything wrong with the scriptures you quoted for scripture can not be broken as it is the word of God. I cannot put God into a box and nether can I put scripture in a box because its meaning keeps getting deeper and deeper.
We are human being and we all judge everything in our lives even people why we even judge God too. I once judge God as a bad God because I believed he was sending most of us to hell now I judge God as good because I see He is going to save everyone.
If someone says to me they have God in their lives and tell me they don’t judge I’ll show you a greatly deceived believe as well.
All I’m saying is if we have the righteousness of God in us let none of us think its of us or that we are better than those who don’t because its only by the grace of God do we have what we have. We have not earned it but we have obtained it.
In Gods love. Richard.
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